Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

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It has been noted that R2 does not seem to be connected to gnd, and is on V+ instead. I have sim'd that too, and although it has no real affect on the coil waveforms, it does affect the D2 shot, and the D2 shot looks like Mike's only when R2 is on gnd.

Hi Darren

Firstly many thanks to you and Peter for keeping this thread alive.

Your comment above reinforces my feelings that something in the original posted circuit is not quite right regarding positive and negative connections. I will experiment.

My scope shots are getting a bit closer to Mike's (without the apparent OU dip), but the spikes on mine always go downwards and Mike's went up.

The attached pic shows Mike's scope shot roughly superimposed over mine, by aligning the spikes.

Cheers

Sam

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So, I wonder if anyone can think of ways pm-coil induction differs from coil-coil induction in this instance with the bcwm ?

I don't think there will be significant differences for purposes of the simulation.  If Mikes waveforms are exactly sinusoidal I would be surprised, but they don't look far enough from it to make an issue of it.

[dingbat]

This is the supposed modified version of the original Bedini circuit shown above.

Peter, can you look at the video and see if there is any way that this circuit looks correct.  It is easy to see how one could go from the first circuit to this circuit, so it makes sense that this circuit might be correct.  If you read Mikes posts, and look at the circuits he drew, this circuit looks right.

Did he actually connect it this way?  Who knows?

What I'm trying to say is, I think this really represents Mikes design intent.  I don't know whether he put it together this way, however.  This circuit makes a lot of sense, except for the fact that there is no apparent complete path for L2 (Big winding in this diagram) to discharge into the cap.  There might be some unexplained reason why the circuit worked.

We are in a sense trapping electrons in L2 when the transistors turn off.  They may be finding some path back to the capacitor at a shifted potential level due to being blocked by the transistor or something strange.  Arguably they have to be going somewhere when the magnetic field collapses.

Also, ignore component values and numbers - we probably agree that some of the component numbers and values are not what he really used.

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Hi Dingbat
your diagram is not what i see in the video, i see 2 wires from the +cap ,1 going to the SSR and the other to the bridge,Also i see a wire coming off the Main+ coil and on the Main- coil which i think goto the bridge, so no i dont see your diagram in the film.

Peter

[dingbat]

Hi Dingbat
your diagram is not what i see in the video, i see 2 wires from the +cap ,1 going to the SSR and the other to the bridge,Also i see a wire coming off the Main+ coil and on the Main- coil which i think goto the bridge, so no i dont see your diagram in the film.

Peter

Peter,

Do you have the ability to post some views of the movie as stills?  I am trying to compare circuits to the video, but I don't have the ability to go frame by frame and zoom in.

I am having a hard time making conclusions from the video, partly because it is such poor resolution.

Another thing worth note, the hall sensor must be connected to the + of the capacitor also.  I think the wire that is going from the + of the capacitor and looks like it is going to the ssr might be going to the hall sensor.

Note this circuit posted by Mike at some time