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Overunity Machines Forum



Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

Started by hartiberlin, February 14, 2007, 08:30:03 PM

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Localjoe

@ toranarod
  Ive been looking around for a soldering iron like your weller if you dont mind me asking where did you pick it up and how much was it . Thanks.
                                                                                                                         Joe
GET THIS ONE - Bush wants to stop Iran from enriching uranium .. now as oberman said and others any drunk coke head can find out how to do this not just bush.

Also in reality Google has provided this info for some time.. so heres my point.

It's OK for GOOGLE TO PROVIDE INSTRUCTIONS FOR URANIUM ENRICHMENT but not OK FOR FOLKS TO SHARE TORRENTS OF MUSIC THEY POTENTIALLY OWN> AS WELL THEIR GOODS SHOULD BE SEIZED AND CHECKED AT AIRPORTS For copyright infringement.. ?????

This is the world we live in. More concerned if some exec doesn't get his buck than if some terrorist blows us to hell..

supermuble

I built a very small scale Bedini-Cole window motor. I cannot get it to trigger. I am using 2 magnets, N, S.

I have only 120 turns of copper wire, it was all I had. It is 24 gauge power, 27 gauge trigger. I think this is too large, and not enough ohms resistance. I am not getting enough voltage to trigger most likely. What do you guys think?

I am ordering some 30 gauge wire if that is what is recommended. Can anyone recommend the different wire sizes for the power, trigger and then a 3rd charging winding. I have heard all sorts of various suggestions.




chessnyt

Almost everybody is rushing to judgment on Mike’s modified Bedini/Cole window motor.
 
If you look closely at Mike’s video and the fake imitation of Mike’s video (the one with the purposely hidden battery), you will notice three distinct differences between Mike’s motor and the fake one with a battery.

The first point of interest to notice is the flywheel.  It’s obviously different than the one Mike used.

The second is the capacitor charge rate.  In Mike’s video, it takes 49 seconds for the capacitor to reach 6VDC on the meter.  In the fake video, it only takes 7 seconds for the capacitor to reach 6VDC.  Mike’s charge rate is a realistic charge rate being that the motor windings are doing the charging.  The battery assisted motor can’t help but climb too rapidly in too short a time which is characteristic of a battery’s involvement.

The third point of great importance is the solid state relay being used in Mike’s video verses the one being used in the fake one.  They are CLEARLY different!  Yes, the input voltage may be the same but I highly doubt the types are identical.  Why is the “type” important?  Because I work with these type of relays all the time at work and there are MANY different types of these relays with the exact same input voltage as well as amperage ratings.  For example, there is the MOSFET type, the SCR type, the TRIAC type, the PHOTOTRIAC type, the ALTERNISTOR TRIAC type, and the PHOTO COUPLER type.  Each may have a different effect on the circuitry (or side effect).

Even if they were of the same type, many of these solid state relays have built-in varistors which will ABSORB any surges or spikes (especially back EMF and sudden switching spikes) thus hindering any kind of charging operation such as the one in this motor.  It’s no wonder the replication didn’t work without the hidden battery.  The absence of a varistor in Mike’s solid state relay would account for why Mike eventually blew out his hall effect IC.

I’m not knocking John Bedini either.  He is definitely a master motor builder and a personal mentor of mine but did he actually take apart Mike’s solid state relay and see if a battery was hidden inside?  I don’t think so.

Here’s a guy (Mike) trying to help us achieve unity (and perhaps over-unity) and he’s been likened to a modern day snake oil salesman.
 
He was forthcoming with his schematics, exact capacitor used, exact solid state relay used and other helpful information on his modification.  This is not the behavior of a con man.  Fakes usually hold back critical details that prohibit you from replicating their work thus making it almost impossible to prove they are really fakes.

He could have gone to the naïve public and scammed them into giving him money for R&D or as investors in his device.  HE DIDN’T!
Instead he shares his designs with websites such as ours only to be ridiculed, second guessed and basically called a liar!  I would have disappeared too if I were him.  The ingratitude of you naysayers.

Is the motive envy or maybe professional egos that were threatened?  I’m sure Mike could have received plenty of this BS from the scientific community in the first place and skipped the need for a second serving on here. 

Thank you for helping KILL the over-unity movement by persuading future inventors NOT to post their designs and insights here.  After seeing what happened to Mike, I doubt anyone else will want an equal dose.   
 




supermuble

Hi, great feedback on Mike's motor! You are a great person. It takes a stronger person to stand up and help others rather than condemn them for thinking differently! Skepticism can not possibly help in the field of technology. Skepticism has ALWAYS prevented progress - ALWAYS.

Do you have a link you could post right here for the "REAL" video vs the "FAKE"?

chessnyt

Thank you for the kind words.  I am currently building my own version of the Bedini/Cole window motor.  I am having my flywheel and rotor both professionally machined to precise standards at which time I will build my own motor with my own circuitry. 

I'm sorry I don't have a link for the fake version (not Mike's but the other one with the battery cheater) on hand but I do have a link to some professionals who have successfully replicated the window motor to prove to you that Mike's results are genuine and NOT fake!

They even show oscope shots so you see the waveforms! 

I think all of you that ridiculed Mike owe him a BIG apology along with some very tasty crow to swallow! 

Proof of Mike’s motor results confirmed at this site:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8484430750184911575