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Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

Started by hartiberlin, February 14, 2007, 08:30:03 PM

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hydrocontrol

Hey All.
I think that everyone should be focusing on getting replication information from Mike instead of asking him to do this and that test. More people need to replicate and then the questions can be divided among the working replications. As it is now poor Mike is going to have his head spinning from trying to do all the request tests. It appears now there are several people going their own way for replication without trying to duplicate exactly what Mike has done before changing the mix. This is doomed to failure. Mike appears to have a working unit so that is the best starting point instead of everyone thinking that they 'know' how it works.
..soap box on...
First there needs to be one or two moderators of a sticky post that contains exact replication information and these moderators should be the ones that can only update the post with current information. Already I see half a dozen circuit diagrams with conflicting information being posted. Which one is correct. We need a common depository of information such as wire gauge, winding resistance, size of form, magnets used, parts used, etc.... without having to read through hundreds of posts some of which are conflicting. This will also reduce the stress on Mike as everyone is asking the same questions every twenty posts. First Mikes states the resistance is 40 ohms and then it is 46 ohms of the windings. Some people think that this is trival but this can make a very big difference as it pertains to the length of wire used and the number of windings Mike put on the motor since he did not count the number of turns. At the current direction we will not have one working replication and people will be pissed at Mike when they should be pissed at themselves for not performing an exact replication. Please.. someone get this organized...
... soapbox off...

Rosphere

Quote from: hydrocontrol on February 15, 2007, 10:01:20 PM
I think that everyone should be focusing on getting replication information from Mike instead of asking him to do this and that test.
... soapbox off...

I do not care if uses my spark gap suggestion.  That was for his benefit.  I believe I read here somewhere that he blew out his last test rig leaving it running all right.  I did not ask him to fix it and restart it.  He did this on his own.  If his cap could discharge once in a while then his motor may still be running in the morning.  ::)

And I am trying to get replication information.  Every part on this thing is easy, except for the one obsolete black-box item.  If Mike could replace this with a more common, still in production part then maybe there would be more replicating going on and a lot less whining.  ::)

AhuraMazda

@All,

According to http://solid-state-relay.crouzet-usa.com/
Crouzet part, GN-84131100
is replaced by 84137100

Let me introduce my friend: google!

AM

hydrocontrol

QuoteAnd I am trying to get replication information.

Me too. My point exactly. With everyone asking Mike to try this or that configuration the needed replication information is comming at a trickle pace. Basic information is missing or buried deep in post. Information I would like answered so I can start replicating are:

1. Size of form used for coil

2. Exact resistance of each coil and the size of wire with that goes with each resistance reading. From number 1 and 2 here we can figure out how many turns he has on each of the coils. I do not want to try to wind the coils by guessing the number of turns only to find I was off by 10 turns.

3. Magnets used and source for magnets.

I do not need scope shots of this or that. I do not need him to try reed switchs or other setups. These things I can do when I have one running. I just want to duplicate what he has first then we all can figure out how it works later..

Dingus Mungus

Quote from: Rosphere on February 15, 2007, 08:11:59 PM
Perhaps Mike could put some sort of spark gap on his cap to prevent overcharging, then see how long it runs?

If you wired a spark plug to the cap, it would fire when a propper wattage is reached. Much like shorting it with a screw driver, but the bigger the gap the larger the cap. heh!

Good luck,
~Dingus