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Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

Started by hartiberlin, February 14, 2007, 08:30:03 PM

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grunff

Quote from: Omnibus on February 20, 2007, 11:58:00 AM
Like I said, there is ample evicence (cf. SMOT) that the principle of conservation of energy is violated, at that, very reproducibly. No more than that is needed for a true scientist to acknowledge the violation.

Nonsense, SMOTs do not in any way violate conservation of energy - if they did, it would be very simple to link up a few of them and have the ball go round indefinitely. Try it - it doesn't work.

grunff

I can't believe how people fall for this kind of thing over and over again. People are so willing - eager - to believe that you can build free energy devices that they'll take at face value, and not ever question whether it is possible that the video is faked. A pair of AAA cells in that arrangement will keep the motor spinning for several days.

Let me make a prediction - in a month's time, no one will have managed to replicate this. People will still be trying, and wondering whether they're using the right relay, or if their wire is a gauge too thick.

Hoppy

Agreed. Even if they do replicate and don't use batteries or other trickery, how will they prove that their motors can run for extended periods of time by showing short videos.


Quote from: grunff on February 20, 2007, 02:56:52 PM
I can't believe how people fall for this kind of thing over and over again. People are so willing - eager - to believe that you can built free energy devices that they'll take at face, and not ever question whether it is possible that the video is faked. A pair of AAA cells in that arrangement will keep the motor spinning for several days.

Let me make a prediction - in a month's time, no one will have managed to replicate this. People will still be trying, and wondering whether they're using the right relay, or if their wire is a gauge too thick.

corona

You can prove with video for sure. For a start making one that is high enough resolution to see every little detail would be good. Then f you pick up the device and spin it around on picture, so that one can see there are no external wires, then closeup of all the components so one can see there are no batteries hidden and attached, especially if the frame is made from a clear plastic to show you haven't hidden one inside the frame, and so on.

But aside from that, I'm currently undertaking a science degree in research and development, if(when) I get my motor replication going, I' going to take it to uni with me and do my next research project on it, and study within an accepted academic framework the operation and optimization of this device. But that's just my little dream for the future, the point of it is that a video isn't the be-all and end-all as far as proof goes. You can always have someone verify the design for you, chartered engineer for example, or someone from the New Energy Congress. There are lots of methods of proving such a technology.
And heck, you can still do a lot with a relatively short video, Mike's was definitely long enough, a minute of so of that motor spinning (and accelerating) was more than enough to show there's something special there. If someone effectively did that video in higher resolution and did the whole checking all sides and under it to prove there's no external wires, then you're set.

Omnibus, I certainly don't mean to discount scientific method, I'm effectively studying it, and know just how important it is in a proof to convince the scientific population, but there have been lots of devices that have been scientifically proven and still dismissed by the scientific community, this is why I say we need something a lot more obvious and in-your-face.

hartiberlin

No scope shots yet from anybody ?

If you have a motor also only running on a power supply,
please post somescopeshots, so we can see, where the spikes
are going.
I really want to see, if Mike really did accidently invert all his scopeshots.
Many thanks.

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