Victor Schauberger

[allcanadian]

In another thread I had mentioned that I had just finished reading "the energy evolution" by callum coats on Victor Schauberger. You guys have got to read this, Its everything I was hoping it would be. His terminology is cryptic at times, but you can easily get the drift of what he was doing.
Here are some very interesting things that fall in line with conventional science, that you won't normally find in a textbook.

Outgassing:
-water vapor in air will spontaneously release CO2 and O2 under conditions of low pressure/high temperature increasing it's volume
-water vapor in air will absorb CO2 and O2 under conditions of high pressure/low temperature decreasing it's volume
If you think outgassing has no power see http://perso.orange.fr/mhalb/nyos/project/historicnmdp.htm   - notice the 60 foot geiser powered by outgassing-tesla and schauberger proposed this idea in the 1920's
-so outgassing coupled to other effects has tremendous power

Charge Seperation:
-Like charges repell(- -) unlike charges attract(- +)
- the atmosphere has a (+) charge growing by 100 volts per meter vertically, the ground has a (-) charge
-water vapor from a nozzle pushed through a charged ring can produce over 20,000 volts  - (see Lord Kelvin water drop static generator)
- If water vapor/air with high negative charge moves through a pipe in a swirling motion, and the pipe has a high negative charge then there is no frition because the center flow repells from the pipe- thus no boundary layer interactions especially if the flow is cooled reducing its volume as it moves(centripital inward flow)
- If a vortex of cold (+) charged air/water vapor under centrifugal pressure has a flow of warm (-) charged air/water vapor enter from below into the low pressure core, the core will implode and outgass simultaneously producing an upward flow and suction at the base of the vortex, the opposite charges of outer vortex and core will produce an inward centripital motion, centripital motion=increased outer vortex velocity
- In water(H2O) Oxygen has a (-) charge and 4 electrons, 2 of these electrons are paired to two Hydrogen atoms of (+) charge. The two unpaired electrons of the Oxygen atom will turn the H2O molecule to face any (+) charge.
-Under extreme conditions(centripital motion/thermal gradient/charged state) it is possible that Hydrogen could disassociate from the H2O molecule, Hydrogen (+) would move to the (-) vortex core and upwards with extreme velocity, Oxygen (-) would accelerate downward the the outer vortex.
O- Oxygen= pressure force-seperation actuates centripital force
O- transverse potential=electricity
H- Hydrogen=suction force-combination actuates centrifugal force
H- longitudinal potential=magnetism


Im just starting to piece this process together after reading the book, there are so many things happening in a simple spinning column of air, so the learning curve is insane. At this point I have no doubt Victor had a self-runner, as Victor said " Do the opposite of what we do today" and you will be on your way.

[Nabo00o]

I know what you mean, I have read it too actually, though it really need's serious and careful examination in order to find the the clues of most importance.
As for me, of the machines he built which is of most interest is to me is clearly the klimator. The amount of water which he claimed it could increase or decrease the temperature of was almost insane, especially when the whole machine could fit into the palm of one's hand : )

But I don't believe that that it was all fakery, probably until someone as genius as Schauberger comes into contact with these concepts again we will never find the answer.

[Groundloop]

@allcanadian,

>>- the atmosphere has a (+) charge growing by 100 volts per meter vertically, the ground has a (-) charge

How can I measure this charge?

Regards,
Groundloop.

[Michelinho]

Hi groundloop,

the atmosphere has a (+) charge growing by 100 volts per meter vertically, the ground has a (-) charge

How can I measure this charge?

The charge in the ground is magnetic current, it has to be converted to be measured. Possibly by using a magnetic transformer or motor.

How to build one? I don't know yet but we are tinkering with the concept pioneered by Felix Ehrenhaft:
http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm

Take care,

Michel

Edit: So far we think that any diamagnetic coming in interaction with a magnetic field creates magnetic currents. Another name for it is Eddies and we try by every means to cancel it in our brute force contraption mentality.

[Michelinho]

Re:

We are also convinced it has the property to bend space: See Boyd Bushman experiment with the drop of 2 rock like mass from a high elevation.

Since it cannot affect time, always according to that experiment, it has to bend space. It would possibly be the reason why the bifilar coil is amplifying the output compared to a regular coil. It travels in a scalar fashion, Tesla was a sneaky guy when coming to terms with exotic description of his patents. We did not experiment yet but we will hold on to the hypothesis that it is.

Take care,

Michel