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rotoverter for power generation

Started by dan, May 02, 2005, 03:57:50 PM

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esaruoho

new rotoverter video posted. this time its some shots of the bellerian rv replication.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=6z2pfnswn40
"Bellerians RV replica output to 2x 60watt 120V bulbs in serial"
"Still have yet to get shots of the paralleled bulbs being driven at full output versus the serial rig that was only pushing 160 or so volts thru both in series.   Hopefully over the next week or so... I also have the 17.5uF caps to work the diode plug adaptation... so will try and get on that this week as well."

hope this helps.
enjoy!
btw, i always thought norman wootan was trustworthy - and wouldnt make a mess out of measuring.

esaruoho

Quote from: FredWalter on December 27, 2006, 10:40:31 AM
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Im sure Norm who also has the MRA (256-1 OU)

Has anyone other than Norm, that has the proper power measurement tools and expertise, measured the output of his OU devices? From what I've read, these devices produce out-of-phase non-sinusoidal waveforms, and a lot of digital amp/volt meters produce inaccurate readings with out-of-phase non-sinusoidal waveforms.

this is the response i got:
"RV is Out of phase sine wave "RF" and is metered easy ...
people just need to know a fact ...
A meter acts on energy input as any other device ...
The same thing that can make a meter pop its glass off scale can also
make your home toaster burn the bread .
You only need to tune your toaster to it !"

esaruoho

Quote from: FredWalter on December 26, 2006, 09:57:51 AM
The only replication where someone claims overunity is from 2002 - and that person is still alive (as far as I know), and hasn't built a bigger unit to power his house, so...

another response from the list:
First thing to say is for him is to do the tests himself to find out.
It only takes a few hours to convert an AC motor to RV mode and dozens of people just on this board (evgray) have done it.
Running any good AC ammeter in line from house power will give you the right amps reading without argument from any engineer once they do the tests themselves...and if the engineer wants to compare and verify the AC readings, then run a 12V battery into any DC-AC invertor, and run the RV off the invertor, then measure the DC into the invertor and you will get the same watts input less loss of particular invertor...
Cant get much simpler than that...dont have to worry about powerfactor or any 3ph equations with battery-invertor powered RV.
Lots of people on the net like to convince others they know lots about something, but in the case of RV you have to do the tests yourself to understand how it really is....laziness and ego-
based "cant ever be wrong" attitudes are only thing to stop you since AC 3ph motors are dime a dozen.
I have a 1/3hp AC motor working as a lawnmower right now, but if you take off the blade and let it run off the "perfect" UF size run cap (17uf in this case) the motor accelerates and accelerates way past its normal "idle" AC sine wave rpm and as it accelerates, the draw in amps goes DOWN lower and lower....you have to pull the plug at the house power socket of the motor, or eventually it will explode...(deliverance) got one to blow - he tried to stop the accelerating
by jamming in some more run caps, and boom. This is more evidence of OU operation in "resonance" mode in RV... just needs to be controlled.
Whether anyone else has or hasnt repeated NormsW way-succesful PMI servo motor as generator tests is not impoertant - those tests are real, and overunity too by good margin...and have been on the net for years and he just doesnt want to believe it.
Best thing to say to critics who insist OU is not possible, because it hasnt been proven to them, is YOU prove it to me that it is not possible and throw ball in their court. They cant prove it, so
everything they say comes back "three times the pain" (Jimi Hendrix - machinegun - 1970)

MeggerMan

Hi Esaruoho,
Are you the person on the youtube video demonstrating the RV motors?
I was thinking that this would be a great idea to use in conjunction with the water hammer device.
The water hammer needs very little torque, just lots of RPMs.
Because of the size of the rotor in the water hammer, you need a fairly chunky motor, like the ones you have been showing. 
Now what if you couple the efficiency of a free wheeling 3 PH motor with a water hammer that is claimed to be 160% efficient?

Hot water, steam and lots of it, use it for heating, cooking, washing, tumble dryer etc.

Regards

Rob


esaruoho

kingrs. im not  bellerian. link me to waterhammerdevice.
http://rootof.info/distro/RVTestingBasedOnDeliveranceOptions1and2.doc
RV Testing Based on Deliverance Options 1 and 2 by bellerian.

this should explain the deliverance rotoverter further.