rotoverter for power generation

[mbell]

Hi Esaruoho,
Are you the person on the youtube video demonstrating the RV motors?
I was thinking that this would be a great idea to use in conjunction with the water hammer device.
The water hammer needs very little torque, just lots of RPMs.
Because of the size of the rotor in the water hammer, you need a fairly chunky motor, like the ones you have been showing. 
Now what if you couple the efficiency of a free wheeling 3 PH motor with a water hammer that is claimed to be 160% efficient?

Hot water, steam and lots of it, use it for heating, cooking, washing, tumble dryer etc.

Regards

Rob

Kingrs
     I have been thinking this same exact thing. I have been suscribed to the evgray group for some time now and what they have been doing is fantastic. I have a 10 HP motor here at work that I will be turning into RV. I plan on using the water hammer like what Griggs has to make steam. Then with the steam you could run a steam engine like the one from this link http://www.greensteamengine.com/  to make electricty. My only problem is I don't have the equipment to make the water hammer so I am working with a friend to see what I can come up with. If you couple the efficiency of the RV and the water hammer IMHO you could have a very cheap way to power your home.

Best wishes
Mike

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

This type of thought has enabled many independent replicators to find further applicaitons and imporive their R and D. The RV is the RV, its what you can do with it by your own applicaiton that counts.

And this is thinking in the right directrion, apply it and imporive it will give you the options to do it, main thing also is to support it and sign the petitions on this page please (to support the RV's energy savings)

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/RotoVerter.htm

Guys please report your success and description so we can help and improve. After the New year im testing Norm set up, we have more efficient double coiled RV motos then Norm to try, if you dont have Double coiled mortors, we still can HALF the input down by using a circuit in the compilations on the NPO page

Here-

http://panacea-bocaf.org/files/RV%20energy%20saving%20applications%20and%20R%20and%20D.doc

And here
http://panacea-bocaf.org/files/Advanced%20RV%20Research%20and%20development.doc

[idnick]

"The water hammer needs very little torque, just lots of RPMs."

Both of the statments above by kingrs are wrong about the torque and RPM. It's info like that,  that makes it harder to build a machine because it's not going to work if it's underpowered or over over rev'ed. Then in the next sentence kingrs states that "Because of the size of the rotor in the water hammer, you need a fairly chunky motor, like the ones you have been showing."                                                       It's got to be one way or the other. Which is it? 

Dave

[esaruoho]

kingrs. im not  bellerian. link me to waterhammerdevice.
http://rootof.info/distro/RVTestingBasedOnDeliveranceOptions1and2.doc
RV Testing Based on Deliverance Options 1 and 2 by bellerian.

this should explain the deliverance rotoverter further.

heres some further comments from bellerian:
"The deliverance testing reported in this doc was not setup using pulsed timed discharging via SCR's timed from an inverter, but was direct output, constant feed, with nothing other than the phase adjustment due the passive components in the setup.  (well and the rheostat used to trim voltage on the FWBR setup, that could have been removed from the diode plug setup.)

A comment on the diode plug setup, it seems like it may work better if the cumulative C1 was replaced with ONLY C2/C3 as the parallel tank caps and then add the extra two diodes on the opposing caps fed over to the Top A and B output drops that are DC effectively due the charge blocking diode arrangement.  Adding the extra two diodes in addition to those shown in the Option 1 of the Deliverance schematic added between 20-30volts more on output from the diode plug setup.

The FWBR setup seems to show the best output to input ratio, easily powering the 2 x 60watt 120vac bulbs in parallel with 152VDC in the tank circulating 3.4-3.6amps while the input from the mains was at 120VAC 1.9-2.1amps.  I think I could have added two more bulbs in parallel to be close to drawing the voltage down to a reasonable level where the rheostat could be removed.

This all can likely be improved by building and using the zero time pulse discharge phase coupled to the AC being supplied by an inverter."

[MeggerMan]

Hi Dave,

"The water hammer needs very little torque, just lots of RPMs."

Both of the statments above by kingrs are wrong about the torque and RPM. It's info like that,  that makes it harder to build a machine because it's not going to work if it's underpowered or over over rev'ed. Then in the next sentence kingrs states that "Because of the size of the rotor in the water hammer, you need a fairly chunky motor, like the ones you have been showing."

Sorry, I wrote that without checking the facts first. It was just an idea thats all.
After visiting some of the sites mentioned above:
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/RotoVerter.htm
states the RV motor can run a generator (RV) at over unity.
So it looks very promising.

Regards
Rob