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High voltage HHO by IronHead

Started by IronHead, March 08, 2007, 06:19:16 PM

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WHITERICAN74

Quote from: Super God on December 25, 2007, 10:14:26 AM
60 liters a minute sounds a little more reasonable.

naturally I was in error. however, marginally.  2 -3 per sec. is what i meant. given that h2 has a air/ fuel ratio of 33:1  up to 70-80:1.  Depends on what one is trying to accomplish. My estimation was based on current fuel economy of my Jeep. 1 gallon of fuel per 22m / (every 20 minutes of standard hwy driving.)  Darn jeep seems stuck between 21-23 miles per gallon hwy or city.   Perhaps my math seems wrong still but hey, it happens.  I will keep you inform as often as I can.  and share details and results when possible. please just bear with me and my meanderings.

Snoopy2005

Hi all.
Thanks IH for your effort to share your knowledge! To bad this grate thread went dead it sure had some potential!
Anyway I am have built the S-cell to learn what I can. My progress is found here: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Snopy2005
Yes I still have some distance to go but I will get there! I yet to play with higher voltage and freq.
Do anyone have a good suggestion to dispose the brown deposits that seems to come back after every rinse of water and plates?
Yes, it ts 316L non magnetic plates....

Oh, this is my first post... took me some weeks to get through this thread.....

Jon

ionut_jakal

Quote from: joemumu on December 27, 2007, 09:34:43 AM
@ IronHead

You are absolutely correct.  ZFF has worked very hard and has amassed a great deal of knowledge which he is sharing with all of us.  I was not disrespecting his research, sorry if it came off like that.  I see that you are visiting again with us.  Can you tell us one or two exciting things that you have uncovered as of late with HHO cells.  You are after all, someone that everyone looks up to for correctness.  I know I do.  I am humbled.

Thank you

Alex

I have found some videos on youtube :D :D :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qj-PHwb-g0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq_VGwkZyYI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tH13Vfv-Lc
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=CarbideTip   <<< you can find more videos here.
I think that the cell under vacuum has a much grater production even if ZFF didn't had great results with his vacuum tests.
I might be wrong but, hey.. I am only trying to help. If you have seen these videos already I didn't knew..sorry.

I'm really curios of what you think of these results.  :D :P

Ionutz.


IronHead

Hey Snoopy
Get your electrolyte just above the Cell stack 1/8" to 1/4"  no higher or lower.
And please use a container that is closer matching to the Cell.
You have alot of gas area in the container you have now , Very dangerous!
Also try some kind of a container where the lid can pop off . You do not want
to build alot of pressure in there if it ignites.

Good job on the S-Cell build man
IronHead

joemumu

@Ionutz

I did have a chance to communicate with ZFF on the details he discussed about his vacuum tests and a little about his involvement with the cell under pressure.  He mentioned that with the cell under pressure, the gas bubbles were smaller.  I would imagine this was compared to the bubble size he was seeing in a normal cell. 

That caught my attention, (this is my take on our discussion), because cells under pressure will pressurize the gases, making them seem smaller until they are released into 1 atmosphere of pressure. 

ZFF has been very thorough in keeping his data.  He is a champion.  He stated, as can be seen in the video, that there was no gain in gas production with his cell under vacuum.  The vacuum that the cell was under was not very great but, it was enough to be conclusive on the gas production question. 

As with the cell under pressure, where gases show up as smaller bubbles, the reverse is true under vacuum.  It would be an educated guess that under much greater vacuum the gas bubbles would appear to be larger as the negative pressure would pull the skin of the bubble outward as it exited the electrolyte.  Appearances can be deceiving.  The gas under greater vacuum may even be ejected from water sooner, but in the end when released out of vacuum would return to normal size. 

Thanks to his tests we all have a better understanding of what is taking place in the cells.  IMO you will not get better production under vacuum or pressure.

Alex