High voltage HHO by IronHead

[kokomoj0]

I have some questions about the Brute Force HHO Starter referenced on page 14 of this thread.

Is it basically a positive plate, seven neutrals, one negative, seven neutrals, then one positive, powered with 36 volts?

Any high frequency pulsing?

yeh its positive on the outside plates, neg in center, with nuetrals, sealed sides etc.    he is just getting into pulsing it now and various voltages but before you do all that you need to polarize it and go through a couple other phases in preparation.   Its all in the text in previous posts.

[rapttor]

So, I tore my variac down over last weekend, replaced all the wiring, which some looked almost original, alittle beefier guage wire, cleaned up the contacts... new switch, made up a heatsink for the FWBR, all mounted in a two-gang box, came out good, and stays alot cooler now.

Here's something interesting I noticed:
With distilled water, and just a pinch of lye(half dozen granules) I charged the unit all over again, since I drained and filled it with fresh water... 30mins @ 12, 24... etc.
Something was occuring around 40.8vdc, I was getting microscopicly tiny bubbles, with a fine vapour coming off the top surface of the water. the water got that charged look quickly..
Has anyone ever had it to this point, where the surface looks of liquid clear acrylic plastic? well, at a safe distance... stare at the bubbles on top... anyone else notice something maybe you noticed, but I've never seen happen before. The bubbles were moving in patterns of the field you are inducing but can't see....

Either that or my eyes are trying to tell me to GET SOME SLEEP!!

Ok, how do you ballast a MOT again? ...

-rapttor

[hkyle]

@rapttor this might explain the smaller bubble sizes.....?? PG.30
@Ironhead...Yes I have thrown 120v to my cell...that was back on Pg. 29...been where I am ever since. Waiting for catch ups...

Bubble size.
Has to do with surface tension through the magnetic gradient.
The greater the field  the smaller the bubble. The surface tension
is not the same  in every cell cavity as the field changes through
the cell stack. If the field is very high you will see the small bubbles through
out the stack and a low field will produce the larger type bubbles . Somewhere
in the middle and you see both. In the cell I have shown the left side has less
resistance then the right side as there is loss at the connection points .So higher fields on the left and lower on the right  in the picture on pg 29.

Here is a gradient chart of sorts to show this. This chart will be even more important to understand  when we start vibrating this magnetic field causing a resonance in the cell cavities.

[rapttor]

Yeah, I particularly noticed that upon starting when cell was at room temp, small bubbles (like a fog in the water, vapour rising from the surface). I left it running for 30minutes keeping tabs on the temp & my variac, as the temps went up, the bubbles got larger and larger until I was getting 20% small & 80% large bubbles. The rate at this point at which it's producing made me hold off on a "light it up test" since I do value the windows in my house, along with the one decent ear drum I have left.
(Too many metal shows when younger in combo with a fair share of NHRA events)

I wish I had a spare CDI ignition box, I've got a MSD 6A in my 70' vw bug, and it tosses out between 350 - 400volts to the coil at a high frequency... I'd like to try pulsing one with a signal gen... choke the source outputs... wait... that's what stanley did.. duh.

-rapttor

btw, in the meanie while... anyone have a good link to re-winding / ballasting a M.O.T. ?

[IronHead]

alexleigh and anyone else that need a cheap pulser to get started

Yes that PWM Pulse Gen. has all the characteristics we are looking for ,For the price it is worth a try if you do not have a Pulse Genny. This is not the end all be all but should work very well for this application .

http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-Interface-PWM-Control-Hydrogen-motors-KIT_W0QQitemZ270127740515QQihZ017QQcategoryZ78190QQcmdZViewItem
Here is the guys store on ebay
http://stores.ebay.com/Chapp-Electronics-On-Line


Selectable Duty Cycle from 0-100 %
PWM Rate 500 Hz to 65 KHz  in 1 hz increments
Runs from 3.5 to 30 volts DC
Delivers a mind blowing 20 amps @ 12volts @25C