High voltage HHO by IronHead

[keithturtle]

@ZFF;
Outstanding work on the cell.   Keep it up.  One suggestion- build a containment vessel that will allow y'all to capture gas (and subsequently measure its volume).

I think we all might had oughta run each of our cells with this equasion in mind:

Gas volume produced for kWh applied.

That wat we can determine which methods/setups give us the most bang for the buck (buck being equated with watts applied, cuz watts = $$$ in most economies).

@IronHead;

The idea of accurately measuring amps applied is one that must be addressed to answer the "overunity" question.   To quantify amps by multiplying yer ammeter reading by time is acceptable, as long as the ammeter accurately reflects power being drawn.   I parrot what was told me by one wiser than me, and am unable to adequately explain the dynamics... it has to do with the current and the actual sine wave.  More research and interpretaion needed there.   (A later project)

I can develop the "battery drawdown concept" here.   A little background is in order, first.

Electric powered model airplanes require copius amounts of onboard stored electricity, usually in the form of NiCD, NiMH or LiPoly batteries.
All these here packs have a mAh (milliamphour) rating that is based on a charge termial and drain depletion voltage.   Between them two voltages, that pack will deliver X amount of millamps at certain discharge rate.  When it hits the minimum, the onboard circuitry cuts motor power and y'all can land yer airship with control power remaining.

Now, back at the hanger, y'all hook up yer computerized charger to the battery, after it cools, and let it charge back up to Charge terminal voltage, at which point the charge terminates (DUH!)

Now then,yer charger tells y'all how many milliamps were applied to the pack to reach full charge.

This allows y'all to apply this cell to an electrolytic process for a period of time, terminate that process at depletion voltage, and recharge, knowing exactly how many danged little electrons went to work making HHO.

(Let's not talk about cell charge efficiency, cuz a full charge is a full charge)

Anyhow, I think it meet (OE term) to address these matters of QUANTIFYING the power applied to our processes, to see where our efficiencies stack up to Mr Faraday and his rules.


Back to absorbing copious photon energy (basking lamp)

Turtle

[keithturtle]

Promises, promises;

I'm putting together a "sandwich chamber" to accommodate the brute, a circulation sub-chamber and contacts, simple enough fer anyone with a saw and drill to assemble.  Granted, I used a joiner to perfect the edges, but I wanna get this thang posted.

If I'm gonna rant about Quantifying OUR GAS OUTPUT, i WANNA GIVE EVERYONE A SIMPLE WAY TO DO IT.

It'll be a few days, yet.

Turtle

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Keith, Way ahead of you. I already bought enough acrylic to build a sealed electrolyte chamber to submerge the S-Cell in and collect the gas, precisely measure the output rates and calculate efficiency. I will later put it under the hood of may Honda Accord to measure performance and mileage boost, with and without EFIE, also EFIE by itself to get the most accurate results possible. It has been hinted that putting vacuum to the HHO generator such as from the intake manifold greatly increases gas production. I can't wait to see that in action!

I also can't wait to see what you conjure up for the collection chamber. Maybe I'll follow your lead.

On the automotive application, I've already begun collecting parts for that as well. I found that generic power brake vacuum booster check valves available at auto parts stores for about $4 each not only seal well in the reverse direction but flow gas much more freely in the open forward direction. Anyone considering this should look at the Magdrive site for their installation manual. It's available free of charge and quite detailed.

ZFF

[Zoi]

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[rapttor]

<ZFF raises hand for teacher> Please see my progress this evening. Thanks. ZFF
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2PltvTUDgg4

Nice work zff, man you've done some readin' huh?
(yeah, I was the guy that my cell popped a leak) I've got my cell almost all together, I hope to have some posting pics / video this evening. We are going to have almost identical looking cells, only difference being that my plates are 3x3 for the neutrals & 3x4 for the + - +.
I had to laugh at the "oh, I know why this doesn't fit, I left the backing plastic on the s.s." I did the same thing the other day.

I'm looking forward to the effect all these new participants input will have on the progress Of I.H.'s Beast.

-rapttor