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Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead

Started by IronHead, March 08, 2007, 06:31:51 PM

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Moab

OK. Thick-time.....

1=2X4 ss screen INSIDE 5''X 18''long SS tubeing capped top and bottom
2=Inside 2X4 screen 1/4'' tungston with 1/4 3/8'' exposed the oher is covered by ciramic.

Now the water AKA headed fluid circulates around the screen as it goes threw the 5" SS houseing, and to a heat exchanger in a bigger tank. YOU wont neen the bigger tank UNLESS you have radient floor heat.

Kyle. Thetube will work BUT you'll have to slow down the flow of Heateing fluid (Water) as it goes through the plasma chamber. because if the flow is too great the plasma cannot keep up to the flow and the plasma goes out,.( Counter productive) for a heat source. Then you'll be pulling high amps as the temp builds up to about 155F. where it can make a plasma ball again.

Furthermore..
Ironhead only pointed me in this direction. I built it on my own with out help of any kind.!(You guys got far more than i did when i started) If Mr. Ironhead has the time and the need to explain it again. Maybe he will do a rendering. I did it without one. ( I'm sure it could be built better Thats where you guys come in) lets bring on the ideas guys!!   Ok?.

listen guys this is easyier than you are makeing it. Just get a bridge rectifyer and try to make a plasma ball in a jar. Youll see what needs to be done after that. And you wont need a rendering , Or anyone to tell you how to build it.

Untill the camera the wife bought from flea-bay gets here or untill Ironhead makes you a rendering. build it in your mind. its cheap andyou can change what ever you want on the fly.. Just my .02 ;) Moab.   :)

Robb077

Moab:
Thanks alot for the detail and about over circulating the water. Guess you can't see your plasma at all,(maybe a plexiglass top).. being covering top and bottom. Ok, proceeding to put the parts together in one week or so for a first burn.
Guess your pump must run all the time or the 5 x 18 would heat up real quick I would think. Anyway, nice to know what works for low wattage.
Thanks much.

Moab

Robb0'
I can tell when the plasma is sparking. I have a lexon 1'' plug hear the bottom of the cell in the 5'' stainless houseing.

the recirc pump only runs when the temp gets to about 170 or so the limit setting is near 200. on the high end and off again under 150. I use about or near because these switched are only that accurate..
Yes when its running the first stage to the heat exchanger runs almost the whole time the cell is "Sparked up" it dont take long for the 16 gal of water to cool down.

on the secondary recirc the limit is set to 70 on the low end and 93 or so onthe high end. If the secondary temp is at 80 or higher the plasma cell wont run untill its 70 or lower.

This gets us in to the boiler apect of the cell and is really a known science for the application that i am doing here. for you guys that are going to use a forced air heat through a heater core of some kind your limits will be higher of course. Probably 155 on the low end and no more than 200 on the high. its going to depend on how much fluid you plan on keeping at this temp. and for howlong of a run you can manage before the celll gets burned. this would bring us back to tuneing, short runs and lots of cooldown time for the cell. so you can make the cell last as long as possible between maintainance. you will be doing maintainance. its the nature of this beast.. sorry.      Moab

Robb077

Great detail helps understanding!

Sounds like your cell can start and stop on its own without adjusting all the time. Nice. I was thinking at first it ran all the time, but now see it can turn off and start again without human intervention.

Nice setup!

Robb077

For those without a heat pump setup, an alternative to a radiator
Moab needs to advise best size holding tank ;D