Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead

[Robb077]

Thanks. This is more difficult than you might think for non electrical engineers. Not sure where to buy teflon tubing. Looked up full bridge rectifier on google and didn't get anything to look at specifically. Couldn't really find one for sale. Can you provide more clarity for the layperson? Its not so simple without a technical background.

[Moab]

Ironhead:
Great info. You know where you can get ceramic tubing with 1/8 in inside diameter?
what model for the electrical components? Exact model numbers or specifications on what is needed to "do it". Just an AC rectifier or full DC power supply with all the controls? Sounds like there should be some more detail so I can go to the store and give them a parts list. Maybe from Granger? Maybe you need to be an electrical engineer to know all this clearly.

here is another way.

Go to the hobby store and get some modleing clay. the kind used for makeing ciramic pots and such. .. Now mix the stuff with water untill its like pudding. Dip the tungston rod in it and let it dry. Do this untill it is about 3/8- 1/2 thick. And let it dry completely. Now this is important. you MUST wait untill the wife is NOT in the house for at least 3 hours.. Take your coated rod and put it in the oven and bake it at the highest setting. Give it at least 2 hrs. while this is bakeing build a small kiln from firebricks. You can get them from a hardware store. Next youll need a Mappgass toarch. and a full can of mappgas. preheat the kiln untill its cherry red. time it with the 2 hrs the wife is away..Now the kiln is hotter than the hinges of haities get the rod and gentily slide it in your homade kiln. dont let the flame from the mappgas-torch blast directly on the rod. This takes a few hours and the wife gets real upset if she catches you messing around with the oven this way. Also you should not leave the kiln until the mappgas is gone. get some beer this takes the edge off the waiteing. And makes the ear beating your gonna take easyier when wify gets home. Cause you know damn well she will know you have been messing around in the kitchen.


Shorter version.

No doubt there is a ciramics class, or you know someone who knows someone who fires ciramics. in your town..Dip the rod like i said earlier and let dry. The class will be happy to fire it for you.


(Edit,) you might ask what happens to the Ciramic when the tungston burns away?
Well if you build your cell so the flowing water travels downawrd the nasty stuff falls to the bottom and is out of the way. You will be takeing it apart about every 10-14 days if you plan on useing this as a heat source, So build accordingly. Also when you get the tungston it comes in a 10 pack. may as well coat them all at the same time. you'll need them.

BTW @Robb077 I'm no EE. i just build things. And this was one of the more fun builds i did in 2006. And it works really well.
                                                        Build it   Moab.

[Moab]

Robb

A fullwave bridge can be had for 9-10 bucks Youll need a 35 amp to start with. Radio shack. Or Ebay. i seen a box of 50. 25 amp bridges for 15 Usd on flea bay. At first this isnt a hard build. Like all things the tuneing can be a bear. Moab



         Lets build it

[Robb077]

Moab:
Great explanation and detail. Yes, I know places to fire ceramics. Ok, lets say you buy a full wave 25 amp bridge. Might use hot water to help get it started like IronHead suggested, requiring less amperage.
How do you tune the bridge to get the required frequency? Not at all familiar with this. They come with a dial? You need an osillocope?

[Moab]

Well first what are your intentions for this devise? if your going to use it as a heater youll need more stuff.

A fullwave Bridge simply turns 60Hz AC into 120Hz DC no tuneing requiord.

Ok a small list Because Ironhead alredy said he cant speck it out for you.

Fullwave bridge rec 25 amp or better  ( To get you started )

A Varyac   50 amp             (Nice to have but not needed for your first cell)


Some tungston       (the greentip )

312 screen. 2''X4-6''  ( the stuff made for airless sprayers)


Some clip leads  # 12 lizt 18'' long ( youll need a bunch like 4 or more later)


A 120V male wall plug.  (Groung optional. A bridge only has 2 ~ inputs)

You can use any wall plug #12 wire or bigger

a 1/2 gallon glass jar with atleast a 4'' opening


put some clips on the wire from the plug on the end your gonna hook to your bridge. The little ~ on the bridge is whare the AC power goes in ~ means sign wave BTW.
Use an insolated block or somthing non conductive to hold the rod verticle in the jar so it DONT MOVE!

Place the 312 screen inside the jar centered. and put a cliplead on it to the +side of bridge. fill with hot water and place the T rod in side the screen centered. Hook that to the - side of bridge.. Now, the wall plug is on the two ~ and the +/- of the bridge is wired as i said to the rod and the screen. Now your redy to test.

I'm not fimilliar with your building ability. most of the guys on this forum are awesome builders. If your not, you may want to start smaller. Our Mr Ironhead builds far beyond the abilities of most people. (Trust me on that one) Also Be warned! this cell is not for the careless. Cool as it may be.  Think before you start. There is no kit, No PDF, No How to. As IH said NO spek sheet. The above is as close as it gets. (so far)   Moab.