OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now

kinggeorge · September 02, 2007, 10:42:16 PM

Stefan
I would not tie it to any fixed Wattage, or that unit has to produce Electric power. I would tie it to it doing the work of a powered home appliance. As a example a small Electric Fan. The losses in domain changes are high, so lets say you have a Real Magnetic only Powered Motor, let it stay mechanical and run a FAN et, equal to something you would buy. In my case it is not a FAN but does stay in mechanical domain and replaces AC powered units that draw about a 1/2 to 4 watts of power and run 24 hours a day.

I have a theory, different from the Father of this concept, which by the way is on your site. If It does self run I think it will prove a mechanical form of "Break-Out Energy" (See my post on OU theory forum).

Again what I feel is important is changing the Mind Set of the average person to accept and even demand OU products for the Good of the Planet.

A good hint these are life support so everyone that has one, would love not to worry about AC power outage. That's why I think that they would sell like Hot cakes, not to save money, but to just run all by them self's, till parts wear out.

As to my view on Alternate Energy for real deployment, it is a simple one. Do not try to replace the power Grid for now, full Solar is out of cost range for most, but a Solar Hot water heater is not. If you could just run your Air Conditioner on Solar during the Day light and store energy as a cold house et. If someone could offer a Room AC with build in ZPE power source, every one would buy one. No wiring, no safety issues it just runs, same for FAN or water pump et. Soon we would have very little on the Grid.

George King georgeking@cosmicsalamander.com

shruggedatlas · September 03, 2007, 12:15:21 AM

Quote from: hartiberlin on September 02, 2007, 08:44:08 PM
Randi does not have the money to pay this at all and the guy is a fake.
He is a typical: "I know it better"-guy.....

I disagree. From what I have read on independent sources, the million dollars is held in negotiable bonds at Goldman Sachs. The money is there. And if he is a fake, just prove him wrong and take his million. If he does not pay up, you can sue him and win easily.

Furthermore, I have read the application - it is very straightforward. The applicant gets to design the test and to determine what would constitute success and what would constitute failure. If you read his boards, his people will of course evaluate the proposed test and request modifications if the test of success versus failure is too vague, but for the most part, the applicant gets to control his own test. True, no one has ever passed the preliminary tests, but someone here can always be the first.

The most common criticism I have heard of James Randi is that his challenge is self promotion. Well, of course it is. However, so is "Who Wants to be a Millionaire." That does not mean that the game is rigged or fake. And the best part is, you can just take his money and shut him up, if you have the goods.

hartiberlin · September 03, 2007, 12:29:34 AM

Quote from: shruggedatlas on September 03, 2007, 12:15:21 AM

The most common criticism I have heard of James Randi is that his challenge is self promotion.
Well, of course it is.

You are absolutely right.

But what is the catch ?
If you want to get the 1 Million dollars, what contract do you have to sign then

They probably get all the rights onto your invention and might lock it up in a safe...

hartiberlin · September 03, 2007, 12:39:25 AM

Quote from: kinggeorge on September 02, 2007, 10:42:16 PM

In my case it is not a FAN but does stay in mechanical domain and replaces AC powered units that draw about a 1/2 to 4 watts of power and run 24 hours a day.

Hi George,
can you please be more specific or is this still a secret ?
Surely a pure mechanically overunity device like
a pure magnet motor running a fan would also be
a candidate for the overunity prize,
but how should we then define exactly the amount of power
it should produce ?

Just a wheel that overcomes its own friction but is
not able to spin any load like a fan rotor would
also not be very helpful.

It must not be electrical output.
It can also be just mechanical rotor energy,
but then it would need at least some amout of torque
on its axis to power a mechanical load like a fan rotor
or water pump or a drill or a bicycle motor
or something simular...
So how much mechanical power are we talking about here
and what should be the threshold level ?
At least if it could get scaled up later, we could
couple it with an alternator and generate electric energy with it...

Regards, Stefan.

kinggeorge · September 03, 2007, 01:04:02 AM

Again I would say that any device that (self runs once started) and does the work of a normal product that anyone could buy around town. If a FAN it should move x cubic feet per minute of air like store bought one.

As for my efforts, I want to first prove OU feedback and its useful work is a by produck of my feedback approch. Just for fun I have told you what applance it replaces. If you compare energy and useage statements. Please if you figure it out write me direct, as I would like to be the first for this application.