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Disclosing Responsibly

Started by z_p_e, July 04, 2007, 02:48:53 PM

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wattsup

@z_p_e

Had I read your pdf two days ago, maybe I would not have connected my Fluke 76 multimeter to this new 2-6vdc to 100kvdc pulser I just got. Heard two clicks and the meter went dead. I mean dead dead. No smell. No fuss. Just dead. Fuses are still good, but the meter just died.

I am worried about two things in your pdf.
1) For sure SM would not pass the IDI test.
and,
2) If something consumed 10 watts and lost 9 watts in heat but produces 100 watts of power, it is still only 10% efficient. I don't understand why.

Maybe with some mods (ok, some very little mods) I think if we could have an OU Grab Bag Or Tool Box, your doc should be on the list.

I know there are alot of new IDI but we cannot make it too impossible for someone to publish something. We cannot stifle OU disclosure because of some clerical lack and on the same token, we cannot run after every IDI without some proper introduction. So yes it is a problem. I think your doc is the ideal and am very thankful for it. I would maybe tone down the "closed systems cannot" part as this may go counter to the OU endeavour, even though it may be technically correct, the ideal has to have some flexibility. Maybe I'm saying this in the wrong way.

wattsup?

z.monkey

Howdy Y'all,
I have to agree with all of you about the proper measurement of experimental devices.  I work in industrial electronics manufacturing.  Test and measurement is critical to getting a product into the field.  If we made claims that didn't hold up to replication and consumer testing all of our product would come back and we would make no money.  That's something that business managers don't go for. 

So my idea for your IDI is to produce a standardized test fixture which measures power in and power out in order to determine the power gain of a device.  All experiments get tested on the same fixture, or standardized fixtures which are certified by the Overunity community.  This way there is a standard power source which is protected from EMI, RFI and wired feedback from the device under test.  The output power can be rectified down to DC and well filtered to make the measurement a simple power equation.  No RF power meters, no calculated measurements, and no guessing.

We are all chasing the same thing.  Output power is greater than input power.  I have seen and read about a bizillion devices that theoretically work.  I'm saying we need a standard test platform and independent, unbiased testers which will impassionately evaluate each device objectively.  This is the only way to truly validate such a device.

Right now I see the alternative energy community much like the medical industry was in America back in the late 1800's, before the EPA.  Now I am not saying that we need another bureaucracy to regulate free energy devices, that would be a massive step backwards.  We need to have something more like IPC, the Institute for Printed Circuits, which is a private company which works with the companies in the industry to set standards and provide a common framework so that everyone is playing with the same rules.  Then once everyone is playing the same game, by the rules, maybe we will start to see significant progress.
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