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Overunity Machines Forum



Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor

Started by Nali2001, April 13, 2007, 03:40:34 PM

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Thaelin

Hey Jack:
   I just had a flash of that motor sitting in the frame of a HarleyD. Now tell me you wouldn't get
some heads turned with that! :o

Smokem'

thaelin


Quote from: JackH on October 19, 2008, 07:40:31 PM
Hello All,

I suspect that this motor will put out 2 - 3 HP on 200 Watt.   Now that just a pretty educated guess.   Got to wind all six coils on this thing, that may tak me about three days






JackH

Hello Thaelin,

It shoud be a very high torque motor.    That should be a very interesting project.


Later,,,,,JackH

i_ron

Quote from: JackH on October 19, 2008, 07:40:31 PM
Hello All,

I suspect that this motor will put out 2 - 3 HP on 200 Watt.   Now that just a pretty educated guess.   Got to wind all six coils on this thing, that may tak me about three days


Jack, can you tell me how many lobes on the rotor?

I guess six and you are firing the coils ... all at once... six times per revolution? close?

Ron

Honk

I'm almost certain he fires two coils at the same time opposite placed from each other.
This makes the motor a Dual Action Valve - Three Phase Motor, that is using his good and proven control sequence.

1) Fire the coils when a section of the rotor area has entered half of the valve area.
2) Shut down the coils once the section is fully aligned in the valve area.
3) Use no BEMF capture as this creates backpull on the rotor, dampen BEMF arcing with a RC net.
4) Once the first section is aligned and coils shut down, the next section of the rotor has entered a two new valves by 50%.
5) Fire the coils in the new rotor-valve position.
6) Shut down the coils once the rotor is fully aligned....and so on in all three phases.

His motors look so extremely cool. 8)  Especially this last one.
I just wish I was living nearby in the states so I could go visit him.  ;D
Magnet Power equals Clean Power

i_ron

Quote from: Honk on October 21, 2008, 06:38:01 AM
I'm almost certain he fires two coils at the same time opposite placed from each other.
This makes the motor a Dual Action Valve - Three Phase Motor, that is using his good and proven control sequence.

1) Fire the coils when a section of the rotor area has entered half of the valve area.
2) Shut down the coils once the section is fully aligned in the valve area.
3) Use no BEMF capture as this creates backpull on the rotor, dampen BEMF arcing with a RC net.
4) Once the first section is aligned and coils shut down, the next section of the rotor has entered a two new valves by 50%.
5) Fire the coils in the new rotor-valve position.
6) Shut down the coils once the rotor is fully aligned....and so on in all three phases.

His motors look so extremely cool. 8)  Especially this last one.
I just wish I was living nearby in the states so I could go visit him.  ;D

Thanks Honk, so what you are suggesting there is a four lobe rotor?

The motors are exceptionally beautiful, the old "form follows function" school of design. Being a
retired machinist gives me an edge in appreciating the craftsmanship that goes into his motors.

Ron