Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor

[broli]

Wow now that's a very good experimentation! Very nice studio like video and photos! Thanks for sharing.

[gyulasun]

I tried a test using laminations. This was not a conclusive test. I used a heavier gauge of wire and while it worked, the results were strange, in that while the magnet stack would lift 20 pounds the coil would lift upwards of 40 pounds. In lowering the voltage to 2.6 volts the coil would lift 20 pounds yet it was not switching the magnet when the two were combined with the result that the lift was minimal.

Hi Ron,

Very good! 

One question. Have you tried in the lamination core case to provide an air gap of certain size between the Neo stack and the side of the laminations?  This way you could 'fine-tune' the strength of the Neo to find the best flux strength for the core.
Your laminations maybe was near to saturation I guess, this could explain the nonconclusive result?

thanks,  Gyula

[nwman]

The fact that lenz applies could be common sense. But I don't think it matters much. As long as you can prove you can get more out than in even if it was for a split second you made a huge ass step. What follows is then pure engineering in optimizing and scaling it.

This is all I want to "see" for myself is what would happen under a one pulse condition.

Nali2001,

I was hoping to have a better presentation of information and results but I'll give you a quick update on my status.

I have made the valve and have achieved the large increase in attraction force with relatively little additional draw of power. I just ordered a variable power supply (0-30v,0-5a) because I'm currently using batteries and the test results vary too much to get solid reading.

Basically I made a transformer out of the idea as shown below. This picture doesn't have the magnets on it but you can see that they would attach to the top of the right core segment. Without magnets it seems to be roughly 75% efficient. With the magnets it increases the efficiency to near 100%. However I only have 1 Multimeter so I cant take readings on both sides at once yet. However it is undeniable that there is a dramatic increase in efficiency with the magnets on. [By the way each side has 400 turns of wire]. There is an increase but no overall gain at the small voltages/amps I was using. [AA and 9v batteries]. I hope that I can find the right V/Amp for the coil and core to break that 100% line.

Any way, I have been slammed at work and haven't had much time to organize my findings.   

Tim

[i_ron]

Hi Ron,

Very good! 

One question. Have you tried in the lamination core case to provide an air gap of certain size between the Neo stack and the side of the laminations?  This way you could 'fine-tune' the strength of the Neo to find the best flux strength for the core.
Your laminations maybe was near to saturation I guess, this could explain the nonconclusive result?

thanks,  Gyula

Thanks Gyula,

No, I didn't try different gap distances with the laminations as the Genesis patent calls for "pure iron"
and cast iron was working well for me so have not explored that option, besides I have run out of
suitable sized laminations, so didn't want to be too successful in that direction, lol

Ron

[i_ron]

Wow now that's a very good experimentation! Very nice studio like video and photos! Thanks for sharing.

Thank you!

I posted this just recently on another group (Tesla and Beyond) and got not one nibble....
so it's nice to be 'on the right group'

Ron