Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor

[Honk]

This is my F.B.D.I.S.S.M.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3456.0
It's a very big ongoing project that take most of my spare time.
I'm scarce with updates since a while back. But I will post a full update when I'm ready to tell how it has developed.

[i_ron]

This is my F.B.D.I.S.S.M.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3456.0
It's a very big ongoing project that take most of my spare time.
I'm scarce with updates since a while back. But I will post a full update when I'm ready to tell how it has developed.

Fascinating.... got some reading to do...

Ron

[LarryC]

It is ironical that we can't use the STRONG force in this... by that I mean if you take a decent sized
neo and stick it on a plastic covered lump of iron... you can't pull it off. That is the strong force. But
you can remove the neo by sliding it over to the edge and off, ...the WEAK force. So we are stuck with using the weak force in our attempted motor.  It's not fair!

Hi Ron,

Yes, that is very apparent in the patent when you look at the 'Maximum value of attractive force during sliding with varying side gaps (starts at table 28)' tables as compared to the 'Attractive force under varying current with varying face to face gap (starts at table 12)' tables.

But, I've wondered about a setup where you have a series of square 1mm thick lamination plates that are connected by cords on the edges so that each plate is separated by a 1mm gap when stretched out. When you turn on the hybrid magnet at 1mm distance away the nearest plate would experience a 32 Kg pull using 2.0 amps at .883 volts  according to table 13. Then after the first plate clamps to the hybrid magnet the next plate would be attracted, but with slightly less force, until all plates are pulled together. Turn off the hybrid magnet and restretch.

This setup seems like it would maximize the much stronger force (face to face) .

Regards, Larry   

[i_ron]

Hi Ron,
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This setup seems like it would maximize the much stronger force (face to face) .

Regards, Larry   

LOL. thats where you have me beat Larry,  I can only suffer through a document like that for about three
minutes before my attention span is used up... no, I hadn't read (or understood that part) THANKS!

It might be a bit noisy?

I babble fished some of the german patent and does it ever sound good. You and Steven have seen it on thanes group, but I think it should be posted here too...'cause my understanding is it is not just
for AC... but would work in a pulsed coil...(from Gustav22 on thanes list)

Hi all,

in this forum's German language section user lancaIV posted, that an inventor just a short while ago filed a utility patent for specially wound coils.
The patent's title is:
"Kapazitive Wicklung für Elektromotoren, Transformatoren und Elektromagneten"
which would be:
"Capacitive windings for electric motors, transformers and electromagnets"

The patent claims that these coils have no inductance and neither inductive resistance or in other words they only have capacitance and behave just like capacitors.
The patent describes, that this winding style can easily replace the normal windings of electrical motors, with no need to change the mechanical setup.

I just wanted to pass on this info.

I don't really understand electrical motors but I gather, that if the described windings are put in place, a motor would run on AC frequency and voltage only, with almost no need for current.

Maybe the kind of coils/windings described in the patent can help to further enhance Thane's setup (when used in the prime mover !? and/or to replace the permanent magnets !?)

You can find and download the patent here (unfortunately only in German language):
http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=DE202008009291U&F=0&QPN=DE202008009291U 
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Ron

[i_ron]

I babble fished some of the german patent and does it ever sound good.

http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=DE202008009291U&F=0&QPN=DE202008009291U 
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Ron

Babel fish...

(57) Principal claim: Capacitive windings for electric motors, transformers and electromagnets, those on the construction of the same as volume condenser wound it is characterized, by the fact that the capacitive coil at least of two parallel arranged, electrically isolated leaders (1, 2) in a coil are wound and at the beginning of the coil the two leaders (1, 2) by an electrical condenser (3) are connected and to End of the coil the two leaders (1,2) likewise with the second electrical condenser (4) connected it is and that a leader (1) at the beginning of the coil with a pole of a reciprocating current generator (5) and the second leader (2) at the end of the coil with the second pole of the reciprocating current generator (5) is connected





Capacitive windings for electromagnets [0024] In accordance with the invention the windings are not none induction reel and dehalb induce the magnetic change of river an against-arranged tension, are called the coils have no inductance. This physical novelty has an enormous technical-economical advantage in entire electro-technology. Snaps and impulse-like reacting electromagnets have not only in the modern technology, but also in the research special applications. Attempts were accomplished again and again also the goal of producing enormously strong magnetic fields between 100 and 300 Tesla.

[0025] In accordance with the conditions of the technology it is not possible to produce a so strong magnetic field. The well-known coils produce magnetic field impulses, whose duration lies between 50 and 100 ms. The maximum field strength lies between 80 and 100 Tesla. The well-known coils are operated with 20 kA to 27 kA and that with million ampere-turns. If one for such a test capacitive in accordance with windings the Erfin dung begins, then only 3 kA with 3.000 turns are needed, in order to produce for the 100 Tesla lmpuls. With windings in accordance with the invention one produces impulses to 300 Tesla with a pulse time under 50 ms. [0026] Generally said, windings have an enormously large economic value in accordance with the invention and is applicable in all areas of the new technology, where Drahtwicklungen are used. With it is not possible for the old technology in accordance with the state of the art to improve the efficiency of electromagnetic Energiewandlern further. The invention described here offers to the world economy new capacitive windings on, which are used everywhere in electromagnetic Energiewandlem can and with enormous economic advantages.