Simple to make Hilden-Brand style motor

[nievesoliveras]

Hi!

@nali2001

In the first video it is incredible how with just an addition of a correct positioned magnet the motor acelerates using less amperage!!

The second video states that the addition of magnetes does not improve the torque in this case.

The third video first the bigger magnets increase rpm and lower amp, But the second time it draw more amps, the third time with a load it turned itself off.

Very interesting!

Jesus

[Ergo]

Hello Ergo,
Well at the moment I have no plans for adapting the motor to magnet-less cores, since I have no cores that size left. Plus they are pretty difficult to 'round out' for the rotor. But maybe someday.

I didn't have a new motor in mind. I was thinking about a static force test. That shouldn't take as much time to build. And your skillful at the video documentation.

I think you put Jacks results in a bit of bad picture, Since his output was i think lower than 2hp (or +- 1500watt)
It was 90watt in, against 0.5hp(+- 370watt) out. So it is not all that extreme at 1500watt out. But I could be wrong also.

Your'e right about this. He's reported 90W in and 370W out but he also said he's not maximizing the load on the motor.
And he frequently states 2-3hp output on his motors.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2222.msg133108#msg133108
The really big motor a while back (the one he never got the magnets for) he claimed being capable of 5hp

Input is 12v 50% duty. So about: (12x4.5)/2= +-27watt.
But with the magnets in the 'good' position you are looking at (12x2.7)/2=16.8watt.
Of course I was too stupid back then to measure the watt output... So who knows the real efficiency.

Yes, it was to bad you never measured the efficiency. I don't think the small motor consumes either 27W or 16.8W at free rpm. (no load)
Your'e probably just boosting efficiency closer to an AC driven transformer by adding the magnet but the efficiency stays well below 100%.
If you try this setup again you should rectify the output using schottky diodes (low forward voltage) and then compare input vs output power.

[Ergo]

Here's the 5hp motor I'm refering to.
He never got hold of the 4x2x2 magnets. At least not what he's been telling publicly
Then he built the smaller version of the type of motor, using 2x2x2 magnets.
The one that he reported 90W input and 370W (0.5hp) output but claimed capable of 2hp.

[i_ron]

Steven Greer's AERO and Orion Project: sincere effort to usher in free energy or eloquent intel. front
snip

i call upon governing members of the free energy movement, such as Sterling d Allan and Tom Beardan to look into this affair because something stinks

But empirical, Greer, SA, and TB are on the same team.

Ron

[wizkycho]

@Nali

might sound trivial to You.
The reason for not noticing some change with PMagnets on that precise HQ motors of yours might be core material for which I assume
has low or lower saturation point. -  should try with weaker magnets (AlNiCo - first). Wound core materials have very high permeabilities but saturation already at 0.5T. (except ones that uses lot's of cobalt).

Another reason i could think of is too high rpm. rpm should be low enough in order to switch on and off full magnet-coil flux. At least for first testing purposes rpm should be low.

can this help a bit ?

wiz