Source of energy, Testatika

[gauschor]

take two baloons, same size, charge one and hang it next to the other.
not touching, but near. and one will induce a like charge in the other, they will both begin to push away from one another.
now lets say that these ballons had a charge-capacity of 700V
so you charge one baloon to 700v, place it next to the other,
the baloons will create an ionized current path between them, and both find an equilibrium at approx 350V, now if this ionized air is maintained, both baloons will discharge simultaneously and twice as much current would flow out of  the discharged baloon as it normally would

Hi sm0key2,
I found your post a very interesting read (read it 3 times). However I don't agree with the balloon examples: if you put 2 balloons with different charge next to each other they will attract each other and not repell.
There indeed will happen an ionized path between them though since they want to discharge (slowly) against each other to achieve equilibrium.
But they will only repell each other if they actually touch each other (which will make equilibirum) and both still have excess charge.

The remaining hypothesis from your post sounds very logical though. So these sheets in the cans are to create a potential between each layer. And each new layer will rise the potential from the previous one.

Then you would need to put the load between the most outer sheet of can#1 to the most outer sheeter of can#2?

If "yes" this probably would not instantly discharge (the porblem we have on the wimshurst), because the inner core never loses its charge. I still wonder if the charge would be maintained through the remaining sheets... or if the potential would continuosly lose its power when a bulb is attached.
Because when a bulb is attached - I assume - the 2 outer sheets always have a potential of 0 against each other... or maybe the potential even rises.... hmmm I can only guess and speculate now...

[jbignes5]

 I know you guys don't know me well but I was active on another forum till my banning. I wanted to join this discussion because out of all of this threads points it occurred to me that I might have some insight to this discussion.

I see everyone discussing positive and negatives as distinct units. I might assert that you are in error when you state this. What if there is only one charge polarity of positive and only one. It would seem that some have mistaken the point that polarity is for. If there is only one polarity of positive then it completely describes statics. You either have x units of positive or you have less. Take for example this reference. When working on the concept of the Tesla switch I learned that you can have a positive potential between two batteries and if these two batteries are of different scales or voltages you can drive your electronics between only the positives of the batteries if the negatives are connected together.

Well this is my point I guess. What if the condensers in this example are just that. Two potential of like polarity (+) static but are of a different potential values to each other. Meaning surface charge area difference. The flow would be the same as from the example of the Tesla switch and one would not need any device to convert it since the two want to balance by natures law. It is in this balancing that we get the direction of flow and it stands to scrutiny from the many examples we know to be true about static interactions, just like in the balloon example that was stated earlier.

You are looking for a magic bullet to convert when I think there is none to be had. Also I believe we are seriously mistaken when we think there is a negative at all. In that respect it is all a matter of reference to each point. Example: point a has 1200 units of charge and point b has 2. when referenced together one looks to be positive and the other looks to be negative but in reality they are both positive just having a difference in value when compared to each other.

We do know that Tesla was able to design a system that used electricity to appear much like static discharges. His transformer was a great step in that direction.

I got this while I was researching Tesla and his effect.

Reference: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1892-02-03.htm

Figure 3 is the transformer but the whole thing is a good read.

I hope this helps you guys out. If not then I am sorry for intruding to your most excellent conversation...

One other thing of note if one wants to keep the unit from discharging then all one needs to do is let induction do it's job. Static induction works like regular induction but it is in reference to surface area and location of the source. Lets say you have a metal block and you expose it to a static source the side closest to the source will accumulate the positives that are trapped in the material to that side and the other side will indeed have a lowering of the positives making it appear to be negative. As long as a flow isn't established between the two (source and inductive material) it should stay negative on that side. I haven't figured that one out yet to utilize this process but it might be beneficial to this conversation.

jbignes5

[dani1]

<copy from a german thread>

Testatika:

As I said,
In one of the videos or interviews, but I think saying that NO magnets are in the 2 large containers (which

my guess would refute the moment), but it was said that the segments were magnetized in the rotating disk -

and that it would not work without the (of course this can also be related to the grid, so that without these

Would not work "lattice trapping"). Perhaps both are important.

Since the Thestatika has 60 segments, it would mean that the capacitor is charging 60x per second. This is important

so that sufficient current density for current devices is achieved.

But also in the film speaks Thestatika the speaker believes that the charges are "ordered" to be. it
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The statement by Wolfgang reparations must never be forgotten:
"The Testatika is a high-frequency energy heat pump!"
My gut tells me that he and his team were on the right solution or not yet!

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Stefan Marinov was once told me on the phone when he was still alive and I had called him,
that are included in the back of the bottle Leidner 3kw machine loud rock crystals.

Which are then pulsed with high-voltage pulses and then emit beta radiation,
which in turn charges the Leyden jars capacitors.

One can think of it as if you skin with a hammer on the crystal
and by the beta radiation Radioactive decay doller then the hammer
is reflected.

This then leads to more energy than you for the food-high-voltage pulse
needs.

If the capacity of the Leyden jars large enough, then the voltage increases
in this capacity then continuously to between the high-voltage pulses and
You can then take a considerable current.

[Dave45]

Watch the first few seconds of this vid the vanes are running in the electric field of a high voltage pulsed coil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5hBsQBz7Nw

[andrea76]

<copy from a german thread>

Testatika:

As I said,
In one of the videos or interviews, but I think saying that NO magnets are in the 2 large containers (which

my guess would refute the moment), but it was said that the segments were magnetized in the rotating disk -

and that it would not work without the (of course this can also be related to the grid, so that without these

Would not work "lattice trapping"). Perhaps both are important.

Since the Thestatika has 60 segments, it would mean that the capacitor is charging 60x per second. This is important

so that sufficient current density for current devices is achieved.

But also in the film speaks Thestatika the speaker believes that the charges are "ordered" to be. it
------

The statement by Wolfgang reparations must never be forgotten:
"The Testatika is a high-frequency energy heat pump!"
My gut tells me that he and his team were on the right solution or not yet!

-------

Stefan Marinov was once told me on the phone when he was still alive and I had called him,
that are included in the back of the bottle Leidner 3kw machine loud rock crystals.

Which are then pulsed with high-voltage pulses and then emit beta radiation,
which in turn charges the Leyden jars capacitors.

One can think of it as if you skin with a hammer on the crystal
and by the beta radiation Radioactive decay doller then the hammer
is reflected.

This then leads to more energy than you for the food-high-voltage pulse
needs.

If the capacity of the Leyden jars large enough, then the voltage increases
in this capacity then continuously to between the high-voltage pulses and
You can then take a considerable current.

the testatika take energy from the earth e.m.f. trough the scalar waves