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Overunity Machines Forum



Source of energy, Testatika

Started by Lycanthropist, April 13, 2007, 04:01:40 PM

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andrea76

In the  Thorny Way of Truth at pag 32 :" ..the small machine starting only when pointing in N/S direction,the bigger machine in any direction .May be the "mechanism" of conversion of the toroidal type?? ring of iron wire wrapped with copper coil?? inside the base??


TinselKoala

You are actually reading Marinov. That is good. Remarkable really.

Testatika is not an electrostatic machine. That is Baumann's big Red Herring.The Testatika is full of edges and sharp points and metal close to other metal.
Every sharp point, every edge of a static machine limits its ability to collect and gather charge, except those edges and points of the pickups and neutralizers. The reason a Bonetti machine works so much better than a Wimshurst is because the segments of a Wimshurst machine have sharp edges, lots of them, and thus limit the voltage that a segment's charge can attain before blowing it off as corona. Bonetti machines have no segments, and the best Wimshurst machines have the segments covered with a coat of heavy varnish except where the brushes make contact.
The advantage of segments and contact brushes like Wimshurst has is that the machine is "self starting". It does not need any charge to start because of the direct contact. Bonettis do not have contact pickups or segments so they need a little initial charge to start. This can be from friction rubbing, or even .... from a little ionizing radiation from a radioactive rock. But the Bonetti machine will make much higher voltage and higher current than the equivalent Wimshurst machine of the same size and same operating RPM.

gauschor

@andrea: thanks for the book upload, I've never seen that book before. Gonna take a read...

@TinselKoala: I tried to build a Bonetti some years ago (it doesn't exist anymore), but couldn't get it charged most of the time. The reason for that was the cool environment. Obviously not something influence devices like. But when I got it to run once I also recall "hearing" a "mighty" an continuous discharge flow. Much more awesome than the one from Wimshurst. I definitely need to build one again. The fact that it works frictionless will also be positive in many aspects.


Edit: is there a clear construction plan for the Bonetti device somewhere? I am not 100% sure of the setup, and wires... just by the looks of some youtube videos. Can't find anything else about it  :-\

TinselKoala

@gauschor: I made my first Bonetti machine following the outlined plans in  the book "Home Made Lightning" by R. A. Ford. I've made two more since then incorporating some improvements of my own. They work great ! The basic layout and principle of operation is the same as the Wimshurst, but with corona combs instead of contact brushes and of course no sectors on the disks.
They can be a bit hard to start if you don't know the trick, and of course any static machine works poorly in the damp. Cold is fine... the best is really cold really dry, but who wants to play with static in those conditions... heh....
I'll be glad to give advice for your new machine! I know some things even RA Ford didn't.
I used to use an ordinary blow drier on low heat to dry off the machine and the motors and such for demonstrations. Be Prepared! I was able to demonstrate the Dirod and some motors in the middle of a San Francisco rainstorm once, by gently drying the apparatus just before the demo.

Here is one of my Bonettis with the spark globes removed,  powering an electrostatic Tesla turbine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir9RIsXzmzY

And here's an overview of the parts, and a few sparks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYGFqkXjwZc