Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU

[Grumpy]

@ChrisC

Stop acting like a cow - the herd will go over the cliff and you with them.  Open your mind for a second.

In case your vision is blurry and you can't see the connections in the schematic, the damn control coils are connected to the collectors - more like "bias" then "ground" than 90 coupling.

Guess you didn't see his scope shot either - collector pulses line up with control pulses - no "DC with hash" like SM stated the TPU has.

As for the current at the output - Otto is silent on that question (I am aware that it will take some work to clean up that signal), but it does not matter because it has already been indicated that you can light a damn bulb with a pulsed inductor, but it ain't no TPU!

[mflynn44]

@btenzer
@chrisC

Another problem is that no one can build an accurate replication of Otto's device with the specs we now have. We need documentation and accurate measurement of input power to output power.

[chrisC]

@marco

I do completely agree with you and Grumpy that before we rejoice in Otto's claims, we should be comfortable that mistakes were not made in the discovery process. Indeed everything should be verifiable and of all people, you experimeters with proper equipment should be able to start the verification process.

As you have pointed out, you have made your test rigg but cannot find the sweet spot. However, is your set-up exactly what Otto showed? double Mobius? If it is not identical then you can't say his set-up does not work? Right? Compare apples with apples.

Otto did not show a self-running TPU. All he was showing that with 3 controlled frequencies and a special mobius arrangement plus the Aluminium factors, he was able to go beyond what all of us so much wanted to verufy!

He is trying to understand how to control these immense power that be generated whilst some people are still bitching about the fact that he may be blowing smoke!

That's all I have to say. Yes, I have not tried to replicate just because I don't have any equipment but I think I do understand enough of the mechanics to follow what Otto has been able to discover.

That's all. Peace!

chrisC

[turbo]

@btenzer
@chrisC

Another problem is that no one can build an accurate replication of Otto's device with the specs we now have. We need documentation and accurate measurement of input power to output power.

This is ALWAYS the problem therefore we need to be polite to each other...

@ChrisC

Stop acting like a cow - the herd will go over the cliff and you with them.  Open your mind for a second.

In case your vision is blurry and you can't see the connections in the schematic, the damn control coils are connected to the collectors - more like "bias" then "ground" than 90 coupling.

Guess you didn't see his scope shot either - collector pulses line up with control pulses - no "DC with hash" like SM stated the TPU has.

As for the current at the output - Otto is silent on that question (I am aware that it will take some work to clean up that signal), but it does not matter because it has already been indicated that you can light a damn bulb with a pulsed inductor, but it ain't no TPU!

Grumpy just in case you did not notice,
Otto has been on this project for a long time...

he has contributed to the overal process by:

*building coils
*doing experiments
*writing down some graphs (which is about the hardest part i can think of)
*shared his results

now what else can we wish for??

THANK YOU OTTO.

even if it is not the right setup, at least he did contribute in a most positive way.
that is somewhat diffrent then start arguing about why this or that cannot work....

i have already learned to stay in the background and see how things devellop if they don't fit into my knowledge.... think about it.

Marco

[otto]

Hello all,

@Grumpy,

a very short time ago, there was a master with the name "Erfinder" in the MEG circuits....topic.

Sorry to say, read again his posts.

Do you really think its important if I have from the power supply 1, 2, 3, 4, 5A???

But when I post than please read carefull. I sayd that at 5A the isolation from the wires is almost burned but then I change the frequency a little and need only 3A or more or less. Then I can work without any problems. F...k the current fron the power supply. This is not important at all!!!!

If you think that the TPU unit is a so called overunity device where you have an input of 1A and an output of 2A in a classical meaning way, then youre on the WRONG address.
If you think, you put in 10W and the output is 20W - again wrong address.

THIS IS AN CONVERSION DEVICE.

To be short, read Erfinder.

Its night,  good night.

Otto