Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU

[bob.rennips]

I think we can all appreciate Otto's effort here. However, replication of a device that requires tuning and an unknown interaction of parameters is very hard to do. At the end of the day only Otto knows what is happening around his device.

More importantly a claim that a device is working has a number of effects, one of which is that work stops on other avenues of research. As such, a claim, such as Otto is making, does require more than just an interpretation of an anomalous set of events. It requires a further set of test, along the lines, of, I believe that the results show x,y,z is happening. If this is the case, then I should be able to measure ab,c, or do test 1,2,3, which will also CONFIRM my findings.

It is the confirmation stage where so many experiments fall by the way side. Experienced engineers know this to be the case. Grumpy et al, are only pointing this out.

[devilzangel]

It is the confirmation stage where so many experiments fall by the way side. Experienced engineers know this to be the case. Grumpy et al, are only pointing this out.

thanks for that post .. it said what i was thinking .. this is the reason i (and other members) are requesting Otto to put in the effort of writing out the experiment in a scientific manner so that any n00b can read it and know what he is talking about, without having to read all of his posts in this thread as well as the German thread. This way it is formal.

then those with the capacity or means to reproduce his experiment can do so and officially produce questions and their own findings and results on the confirmation.

Otto .. you saying that a PDF isnt important is understandable .. fine, make a word document; it doesnt matter what format u use, atleast respect your work enough to document it; it will help fellow OU users to confirm your results. I say this with no disrespect whatsoever.

another thing .. Otto, i think you r a smart person .. so i dont know why u shugged off a comment about being careful about who u show your experiments to .. it may have been a pit that SM himself fell into bc he wasnt cautious .. DONT give out working devices to people without making them sign a non-disclosure agreement!!! otherwise people will play you for a fool.

devilzangel
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[Grumpy]

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It is the confirmation stage where so many experiments fall by the way side. Experienced engineers know this to be the case. Grumpy et al, are only pointing this out.
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Exactly.

@Grumpy

Why are you ever so certain you know everything? Did Erfinder not say he BUILT IT and knows what the heck he is talking about! Otto built his. Can you verify? If not, please SHUT UP!

peace

ChrisC

I do not know everything - I just know that you are too eager to believe something when no facts are provided. 

I talked to "Erfinder" directly and he stated that he had "not" built it (he also added that it "changes nothing").  Had you the "insight" - you would agree with what I am saying.

[Grumpy]

OK!

Otto asked me to just build it.  I'll compile what I can find of the details - ask for the rest - and start winding.

Ain't that much wire anyway.

[giantkiller]

If anybody needs a punching bag then here I is.
I built the GK4 from Otto's mechanical specs. I added the bailing wire on my own from SM. I got the 22awg @ 200 windings from c0mster. The frequencies were just sweeps. An obvious thing to do. The timers are adjustable. It was plugged into the wall. Just way too simple. And oh what I experienced by experimenting! I don't recall anybody else doing this. And it was so easy to do. Alot of people wanted to know what I did. What I did? Please. I posted full specs. What Otto showed us was the 3 freq tied together at the end for the phase cancellation that produces extremely fast rise and fall times. SM showed us two metals. C0mster showed us smaller wires for the better field. Otto showed us the 50 turn coil. The GK4 has 12 of them. I cooked my hand and head. These are very real results( was told by the top dogs immediately to stop). Now Otto shows us these things again and we pick on him. I will not go there. He has shown us now 2 very heavily embedded secrets of this technology. The mobius winding(grumpy posted the dynamically changing impedance), the aluminium (verified by the circut in the middle reason), in 4 ways. The winding of the GK4(his first coil, my labor. Yes you read that correctly) and the 50 turn coil, the 3 frequencies(in 2 diagrams!), the aluminium in the middle.
I took Marco's last posted coil and saw small results. I put an aluminium plate top and bottom and get the sh*t scared out of me, again. Ooooweee. This coil again shows 3 frequencies applied.

We are not done. We are being asked to follow over and over again. I have been. We will get there. If not, I will just by following patiently. I got time. The pump prices are starting to bother me though.

I just got beat up by posting too much about the safety for the umpteenth gabillion time. I expect to see smoldering flesh from somebody elses posts then. And do you know why? Because there is no gray area at this point. Otto also just posted about the smoldering insulation. and looking for the sweet spot. Well when you get to this point you are shooting yourself with vhf, microwave, and xray speeds of frequencies, verified in another conversation I had elsewhere with Cavetronics. I posted about dangerous thinking. Why? Because is very hard for me to test now knowing what the outcome might be. Otto just did more than cook insulation.

Just experiment and smack that copper! Obtw, now Otto, Marco and I are the only ones that spanked the aluminium. We have seen the next level. Sounds silly, don't it?

Quasimoto stated 'I ring the bell'. Poor guy was half deaf from holding onto the clanger. We should be so lucky, eh?

--giantkiller. It all works. It's all good and no black holes or crash sites in my neighborhood, yet...