Otto`s replication of Steven Mark`s TPU

[hartiberlin]

Roberto and Otto, please can you explain in detail, when exactly the input current went to Zero and if the light bulb still lighted then as bright as before ? Thanks.

[chrisC]

@Darren

Much as I appreciate your constructive questions on the Otto & Renotte's 1st draft, I think is not that difficult to put together the circuit when all build of materials are there.

If you did that, you would have answered the majority of questions yourself. These two gentlemen are not 'novices' . They understand elctronics, power measurements, including rms measurements. You just need to treat this device as not a typical electronics device where you can average out the current.

Let me make it simplier, if you were in possesion of SM's 6" or 15" TPU. Was there external power to the oscillators? How then do you proceed to measure that? And what rms value would that yield (average output/average input) when there is no input power? Do you not get it?

They are just one step more from controlling 'the beast' so they can feed back that % of power to make it self oscillating! This is not a over-unity device!

Regards

chrisC

[CTG Labs]

Hi Chris,

Can you point out where the excess energy is measured and shown in the document?  I must be thick.  I see dimly lit 100w bulb, perhaps lit to 20 or 30 watts, just a dim glow of the element.  I dont see any OUTPUT POWER measurements of any kind showing excess energy above the power supply.  I just see complex signal adding.  I have to say at this point I agree mostly with Darrens comments.

I am not seeing anything here I havent seen a hundred times over the last year with various TPU builds, electrostatic coupling leading to spikes which contain no energy and with the right mix they can add to large spikes, as do any signals of the right frequency which you mix.  Despite the fact we are still assuming a kick means a voltage spike, someone just assumed that remember!  SM has never said this is what a kick is, infact he talks more about a kick being the physical movement of the fillament in a vacuum tube when current is first caused to flow in it.

And before anyone says go build it yourself, I am not sure what I am building.  If there is no excess energy documented and measured here, what exactly am I replicating?  If there is no excess energy measured here, why think anything is being freely converted to electricity?

Like I said, perhaps I have missed it, if so I appologise and perhaps I need to go back to school...


Regards,

Dave.

[Bruce_TPU]

Okay, Dave. 

Let me take a stab at it.    This is not just an electronic device.  It is not a "coil" setup, nor a type of transformer.  So, what is it?  What do Roberto and Otto think it is?  What do those of us so excited to replicate it and spending said time and money on such, think it is?  An overunity device of some sort, where you input 50 watts and get back some more wattage?

None of the above.  What SM invented and is now in the "baby" replication stage is:

A.  A mini particle accelerator
B.  A reactor
C.  Generator
D.  A NEW source of electrical power.

These guys have just hit the edge of what will prove to be a rich and exciting research, development and refinement process.  This is not the TPU you see in the video's.  This is what SM said about putting any three frequencies into a wire with the proper circuit potential (mobius).  There will be so much more of SM's words to be listened too, to bring this R&D about. 

What Otto and Roberto have hit on is the "conversion" process.  The output of the coils was "converted" power.  Not just DC 12 volt.  Roberto and Otto can correct me if I have described this incorrectly but I think not.

When I and then others refer to this as "the beast" what we mean, is that it uses heat to assist in freeing electrons.  The flux of the wire is disabled allowing the Electons to be float free and then they are sped along at the speed of light, producing kicks and kicks and more kicks.  When these combine, they produce "Big Kicks".  This was SM's words and now that part has been replicated. The more heat it produces, the more it eats, the more it eats, the more heat it produces.  (@Everyone-In the future I have some UNIQUE ideas for that heat.  Remind me and I will tell everyone later.)  This is why I and Otto and others call it the "beast" and must learn to tame it.  The problem will not be how much wattage can you convert.  NO, the problem will be How can you limit the wattage without it destroying itself.

If you or Darren or others choose not to replicate $7.00 worth of wire and a few components to see the "birth" of something new, then that says alot.  But, in the end, it will not matter, because we will replicate it, improve it, implement ALL that SM said about the frequencies, and not try to reinvent the wheel.

If you or others do not understand, then please reread the NEW pdf of SM's posts.  Then if you have the desire, reread my thread, dissecting every portion, most of the time on the money, but a couple of times not.

@ Everyone
I suggest all further questioning of Otto and Roberto await until after the FAQ, WITH THE EXCEPTION to those of us replicating who may have a question that needs immediate attention for the successful accomplishment of that task.  I suggest this only as a common courtesy on their behalf.  Please put yourself in their shoes, and reread the last several pages, if you doubt me.

Let me also stir the pot, for I think the time is right.  That Letter I posted on my thread, some time ago, where a man named Bob and I erased the last name has some sort of working TPU, either of his own design or replication of SM's.  It works.  But I have been UNABLE to find mention of it ANYWHERE on Bob's website for some reason (like to protect the people, maybe.  Sound familiar.  Who knows.)  Oh, what was the last name erased off of that letter sent to me?  BOYCE.  BOB BOYCE
Read the letter here on my thread.  Tell me if I am imagining things.  Hmm...Something about his letter sounds awfully familiar to what we have been told about SM's TPU.  So now that cat is out of the Hat.  Bob Boyce has a working TPU.  Let's see if he helps us.

Reply #124 here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2300.msg32259;topicseen
I wonder how his works and where he got it...and why he hasn't told us or anyone.  Mr free energy himself.

Thank you and warm regards,
Bruce

[Motorcoach1]

to clarify things Bob Boyce is currently working on the Hydroxy project and the  3 freq. board is a prototype board to run the cell on. I'm not sure if he has a TPU prodject his site is Oupower. theres a lot of interesting things on his site but the TPU may not be one of them that i recall.