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Resonating homopolar generator

Started by bob.rennips, April 21, 2007, 01:14:44 PM

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HEYDUDE

BEP

QuoteYou can't rotate a magnetic field no matter what you do to the magnets. You will only spin the magnet. The field and the flux are not part of the magnet and are not attached to it no more than light is attached to a lens.

I would love to believe that you are correct in this. The ramifications are mindblowing. I have been struggling with this concept for some time. It means that since the earth is spinning at approx 1000mi / hour at the equator, the magnetic field may not. Then we should be thinking about vertical wires fixed to the earth cutting through that stationary flux at high speed.

But the fly in the ointment is you get a null when you try to complete the circuit in the return wire. So can the return wire be shielded? How do we get at this potential generator. Any ideas anyone?.

AbbaRue

The Faraday Disk has the same problem.
When a volt meter is attached to the disk and spins with it there is no voltage reading.
The volt meter has to be stationary in relation to the disk.
This is probably the same case with the Earth.
The circuit drawing the power has to be standing still in relation to the earth.

forest

Quote from: HEYDUDE on August 27, 2008, 12:53:26 AM
BEP

I would love to believe that you are correct in this. The ramifications are mindblowing. I have been struggling with this concept for some time. It means that since the earth is spinning at approx 1000mi / hour at the equator, the magnetic field may not. Then we should be thinking about vertical wires fixed to the earth cutting through that stationary flux at high speed.

But the fly in the ointment is you get a null when you try to complete the circuit in the return wire. So can the return wire be shielded? How do we get at this potential generator. Any ideas anyone?.

I'm not sure I understood you but yes, Earth magnetic field is stationary while Earth surface is rotating in it.Because of air inertia atmosphere is spinning at slower or high rate (not sure), anyway that would explain the large potential between Earth surface and upper atmosphere areas. However you can't simply put a wire across Earth magnetosphere and measure large current.It won't work that way.Strange indeed.Seems it's a confirmation of Special Theory of Relativity - in our point of view this conductor is laying in magnetic field because we are on Earth surface and also spinning along the lines, that's why no current induced inside conductor.

Is that a good way to explain it ? I don't know. But I fell that a free moving electrons are not bound to such limits.That would explain spark gap anomaly,Tesla magnifying transformer (skin effect)  and many many other devices based on freely movable electrons.

BEP

I think we have a lot of mis and non understandings of the workings of nature because we can't seem to think outside of this box or 'frame of reference'.

As for torsion of a 'static' magnetic flux.... I'm sure it is there or there would be no 'static' flux or field. But one big understanding that must take place first:
Think of mag flux as a sponge. Instead of soaking up water it stores moving charges. Moving charges perpetuate this mag field.
To make things clear on my thinking: flux would be the soup in the bowl. Field would be the inside measurements of that same bowl up to the level of the soup. You can't spin a measurement. You can only change your frame of reference of that measurement.

I also have serious doubts on the mechanism of current induction. I don't think it has anything to do with field lines crossing a wire. I think it is the result of the charges stored in the mag flux accumulating on that wire. If this is true then there is a solution to the use of a Faraday generator.

This reminds me of an argument I had with a 6th grade science teacher. She said the only way to have a magnetic field is to have current flow. I said, what of a magnet? You can see where this went....

Gearhead

Quote from: HEYDUDE on August 27, 2008, 12:53:26 AM
BEP

I would love to believe that you are correct in this. The ramifications are mindblowing. I have been struggling with this concept for some time. It means that since the earth is spinning at approx 1000mi / hour at the equator, the magnetic field may not. Then we should be thinking about vertical wires fixed to the earth cutting through that stationary flux at high speed.

But the fly in the ointment is you get a null when you try to complete the circuit in the return wire. So can the return wire be shielded? How do we get at this potential generator. Any ideas anyone?.

The space shuttle did this experiment with a tethered object in orbit.  The tether broke or was burned through by the energy.  The tether was visible 100 miles away because of the charge.  http://mig.rssi.ru/mirrors/stern/Education/wtether.html