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Overunity Machines Forum



New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

Started by hartiberlin, May 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM

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valveman

I'm on the fence on this one.  I'm awaiting the big bang that will show us all that this is indeed a working machine.  There are many questions to be asked as to the validity of this design.  Also I really don't care whether you share my thoughts or not.  The simple truth is it either works or not.  So far no indication it actually works.  Pictures are of poor quality as well as the videos.  If you are 100% convinced it works, then good for you.  I'm not here to change your mind.  I will however ask questions so I can better understand what's going on.  If anyone is offended that I question the validity of an unverified design, well that's the way it goes.

LarryC

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 27, 2008, 12:46:47 PM
@ Larry:

I appreciate your attitude.  I still believe the pump in the photo was connected to the device, but, of course, I could be wrong.  So we can agree to disagree on that.  As far as the hoses you mentioned, I am not sure which photo you are speaking about?  Would you mind posting the photo and maybe put an arrow to the hoses or just describe where they are?  I just want to make sure I am not getting confused on which photo is of which device.  I have seen a device with the high pressure hoses and then I have seen a device with just regular plastic air lines of much smaller diameter.  I believe it is normal for a guy like Bob, or any of us for that matter, to have several variations of a device as it progresses through its design stages.  This part does not bother me at all.

On the photo in a recent above post, I do see the "switching" mechanism someone mentioned on the shaft of the device.  Yes, to me this appears to be a timing control device of some kind, which makes sense.  What I am not sure about is where the power comes from to run these pick-ups?  I know he has it hooked to a generator but the output from that would, to my way of thinking, be too high, and also, not consistent as it would vary with rpm's.  If it were me, I would run the switches off a battery and then dump the generator juice into the battery, or bank of batteries.  What are your thoughts on this?

Again, I appreciate your attitude in wanting to discuss this as opposed to argue about it.  The only person that really KNOWS for sure is Bob.  I guess the best the rest of us can do is to speculate, guess, discuss, and exchange ideas and theories.  Take care.

Bill

@Bill,

Your attitude has been great as well.

Used your photo and the crumpled hose is just to the left of the text.

The photo from reply #515 with the switching is of an older machine. But I've always thought it was similar the the Creative Science Fuelless Gravity machine. Which has an option of using compressed air or electromagnetic as power.

I agree with your statement  "I guess the best the rest of us can do is to speculate, guess, discuss, and exchange ideas and theories." and would like to add that those that can should try to replicate.


I've included some pic's from my latest Bob build.

The Full length of machine pic show the whole machine attached to a piling and a support 2X4 in front. Trust me none of the stuff to the rear of the piling will have anything to do with the running of the machine.

The Roller and Irwin clamp pic shows to the right the roller on the weight box which will ride the inclined plane to lift both weight boxes. The Irwin clamp tensions the bungee cord and can lock at variable distances and just a touch of the release handle will release it. I can add more Irwin clamps and change to springs, but that will be based on testing. Bungee cord are much easier to adjust during testing. The Irwin clamps can handle around 150 lbs of force.

The Center roller shows part of the ceiling fan rotor bar with bearing support. The back side has another bearing support.
The unit rocks back and forth like a pendulum with a slight touch.

The Sliding door roller pic is from the rear and shows the 1/2" angle iron bar with adjustable height sliding door rollers supporting the weight box. The unit slides easily with no weights in the boxes when just above level.   

I have to add some centrifugal slam shock absorbing material and some additional bracing. Also, I have to cut my variable rise inclined plane, so maybe by this coming Friday I'll have some test results. Also, with this design if the variable rise inclined plane doesn't work, I'll be able to add the center cam and articulating arm that Charlie and I showed.


Regards, Larry

unity2zero

Quote from: LarryC on September 28, 2008, 07:15:44 PM
@Bill,

Your attitude has been great as well.

Used your photo and the crumpled hose is just to the left of the text.

The photo from reply #515 with the switching is of an older machine. But I've always thought it was similar the the Creative Science Fuelless Gravity machine. Which has an option of using compressed air or electromagnetic as power.

I agree with your statement  "I guess the best the rest of us can do is to speculate, guess, discuss, and exchange ideas and theories." and would like to add that those that can should try to replicate.


I've included some pic's from my latest Bob build.

The Full length of machine pic show the whole machine attached to a piling and a support 2X4 in front. Trust me none of the stuff to the rear of the piling will have anything to do with the running of the machine.

The Roller and Irwin clamp pic shows to the right the roller on the weight box which will ride the inclined plane to lift both weight boxes. The Irwin clamp tensions the bungee cord and can lock at variable distances and just a touch of the release handle will release it. I can add more Irwin clamps and change to springs, but that will be based on testing. Bungee cord are much easier to adjust during testing. The Irwin clamps can handle around 150 lbs of force.

The Center roller shows part of the ceiling fan rotor bar with bearing support. The back side has another bearing support.
The unit rocks back and forth like a pendulum with a slight touch.

The Sliding door roller pic is from the rear and shows the 1/2" angle iron bar with adjustable height sliding door rollers supporting the weight box. The unit slides easily with no weights in the boxes when just above level.   

I have to add some centrifugal slam shock absorbing material and some additional bracing. Also, I have to cut my variable rise inclined plane, so maybe by this coming Friday I'll have some test results. Also, with this design if the variable rise inclined plane doesn't work, I'll be able to add the center cam and articulating arm that Charlie and I showed.


Regards, Larry

Hi Larry

Does these rollers and weights sliding along the 1/2" angled irons moves very easily? Let say if I tilt it at an angle of 15 degree from horizontal with both weight balanced in the middle, will it slide easily and forcefully towards the other side of the lower end?

Thanks.

LarryC

Quote from: unity2zero on October 02, 2008, 04:43:20 AM
Hi Larry

Does these rollers and weights sliding along the 1/2" angled irons moves very easily? Let say if I tilt it at an angle of 15 degree from horizontal with both weight balanced in the middle, will it slide easily and forcefully towards the other side of the lower end?

Thanks.

Yes to both questions. Sliding door rollers are usually made to run on a track with a 1/8 round center edge and the 1/2" angle iron has a 1/8 round edge.

Regards, Larry

unity2zero

Quote from: LarryC on October 02, 2008, 10:03:44 AM
Yes to both questions. Sliding door rollers are usually made to run on a track with a 1/8 round center edge and the 1/2" angle iron has a 1/8 round edge.

Regards, Larry

Hi Larry,

I think what Bob had done is contrary to ideas he had given on the description of his gravity machine in this forum. Since you have built one with the sliding weight as what he had said, you couldn't possibly start or kick off the machine at the vertical or 12 o'clock position as all the weights are at the bottom. But if you observe Bob's video carefully, he started off at this vertical position which couldn't possibly be.