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Overunity Machines Forum



New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

Started by hartiberlin, May 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM

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Xaverius

Quote from: valveman on September 28, 2008, 07:02:04 PM
I'm on the fence on this one.  I'm awaiting the big bang that will show us all that this is indeed a working machine.  There are many questions to be asked as to the validity of this design.  Also I really don't care whether you share my thoughts or not.  The simple truth is it either works or not.  So far no indication it actually works.  Pictures are of poor quality as well as the videos.  If you are 100% convinced it works, then good for you.  I'm not here to change your mind.  I will however ask questions so I can better understand what's going on.  If anyone is offended that I question the validity of an unverified design, well that's the way it goes.

I tried to contact him as well, in March or April I believe.  Stefan wanted to know if anyone telephoned him.  He said he has his number.  Would you consider calling him?  I agree, the videos are too dark  and unclear and the stills leave too much to the imagination.  I think a good schematic with an accompanying theory of operation would be best for all would be replicators.  Anyway, like you I hope this works but at the moment it's kinda frustrating trying to figure this thing out.

noonespecial

Quote from: unity2zero on October 04, 2008, 10:06:56 PM
Hi Larry,

I think what Bob had done is contrary to ideas he had given on the description of his gravity machine in this forum. Since you have built one with the sliding weight as what he had said, you couldn't possibly start or kick off the machine at the vertical or 12 o'clock position as all the weights are at the bottom. But if you observe Bob's video carefully, he started off at this vertical position which couldn't possibly be.

I don't want to presume to speak for Larry however.....:)
Bob's machine uses a secondary actuator arm that lifts the weights up after the initial cam lift. You can see this more clearly at the very end of the video where the weights are raised and stay in the up postion after it stops. Larry however, is experimenting with an alternate variable ramp mechanism that doesn't need the actuator arm.
Regards,
Charlie

LarryC

Quote from: unity2zero on October 04, 2008, 10:06:56 PM
Hi Larry,

I think what Bob had done is contrary to ideas he had given on the description of his gravity machine in this forum. Since you have built one with the sliding weight as what he had said, you couldn't possibly start or kick off the machine at the vertical or 12 o'clock position as all the weights are at the bottom. But if you observe Bob's video carefully, he started off at this vertical position which couldn't possibly be.


Bob may have just put a small piece of metal in the roller edge as a jam, then a string could have pulled it out at 3:00. There are many other ways and none of them would need to be obvious. I used this at first but I had a problem with the bounce back effect of my shock absorbing material after the CF sling capture. It is the medium weight black material where the boxes would impact in both pictures.

I've included a picture of a light weight catch. It is the aluminum bar with the 45 degree slide at the top edge of the weight box. It latches as the box gets close to the end. At an rpm of 60 it would not be needed as the CF force will hold the boxes without bounce back. Bob air shocks were probably of the type that would have not bounce back.

The latch does work but I'll be changing to another design as that area has a tolerance issue with the incline plane.
I don't have the release mechanism for the Irwin clamps on yet, but it won't take long after I get a new light weight catch setup.

I've included a picture of the variable rise rate inclined plane. With a good push from 2:00 it causes the CF sling and capture in the Irwin clamp. When the machine is standing still in vertical, both weight boxes cannot push the Irwing clamps to bottom (1/2 way), with the CF sling it bottoms out.

Also included the latest version of my spreadsheet as I needed to account for the shorter radius in the Lift Ratio and length calculations as the boxes moved up to midpoint plus 1". I've also added a Lift in degrees column.

Regards, Larry

hartiberlin

Hi Larry,
nice design.
Maybe you can post soon a video of it on youtube or anywhere else,
so it gets more clearer.

Many thanks in advance.

Keep up the good work.

Hope to see soon someone visiting Bob
and take some videos of his current design.

Bob are you still here ?

What about your latest progress ?

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

LarryC

@Stephan,

Thanks and I will post a video as soon as I get the bugs worked out.


@All,

I was testing the unit varying the weights in the boxes and the weights at the edge of the unit when it misfired and fell straight down into the back end of the inclined plane. See pic of gravity slam.

So while the inclined plane is great at varying the lift ratio in proportion to the CF force, it is in a dangerous position. I could change to a heavier roller support, but something else would end up breaking. Bob mentioned several times about making sure the forces don't tear the machine apart.

So I am going to go back to trying a center cam and actuator arm for the lift as Bob stated. It would be in a much less dangerous position, but it will be more challenging to build.

Regards, Larry