New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

[rlortie]

Nice info yaz! I've been looking for a way to turn the captured CF sling force into rotational increase and this may help.

Thanks, Larry

Yes! I too played on one of these, it was big enough to have 12 children provide power with six hand and foot treadles wide enough for two children to operate. There were six connecting rods connected to the stationary crank journal.

@ Larry

If this interests you, I suggest you do  background research on radial combustion airplane engines. One  in particular used during the First World War, the crankshaft was stationary (as  is the merry go round) and the cylinder block and heads rotated to which the propeller was firmly attached. One thing you will learn is that they all contained an odd number of pistons. 5-7-9 and multiples thereof. 

I have built a number of designs based on this concept, none of them ran but their are many more versions left to try.

Back to Bob! I am sure the question will rise; If I think I have the answer, why am I not jumping in and building one. Well the answer is obvious to some  but to others I will say; Hey its Bob's machine, he has first crack at bringing it to a productive commodity. If he doesn't then I will consider it fair game.

Ralph
 

[LarryC]

Hi everyone. Glad to help. I also found a site that has different mechanical animations. It really helps to see how a cam actually works, in real life.
This is the page with different cam designs. If Bob said he used a cam then it has to be something borrowed from there.

http://www.technologystudent.com/cams/camdex.htm

The index at the top of the page takes you to other mechanical animations. Hope this cuts down on some design time.

Very interesting, thanks again yaz. Actually I had googled for cam info before and didn't find near this amount of infomation.

Regards, Larry

[LarryC]

@Ralph,

Sorry for the confusion with the So just from what I recall of your post:. I should have stated The following are my responses to what I recall from your post:

I have no private info from Bob. All of my info came from Bob's various post in this thread and one of the emails he sent to Charlie. Please see the attached Bob Kostoff comments doc where I compiled a list of his machine comments. It was posted earlier but I know there is a lot of post to go thru. After reading the doc I'm sure you will understand where I got my current design. Actually it took a while to figure out, but with the help of Charlie and others comments on this thread, we finally pieced it together where it fits a lot of Bob statements.

On my unit I don't have the air cylinder or shocks, but I am trying to figure out how I can replicate the extra lift needed for the 8"+ without that advantage.

At this time unless I build it, I see no need to lock the weights or springs as once 'out' CF will hold it there until it is time to cycle.

You will see the statement in the doc that he used a locking pin to release the springs. It is necessary to capture the additional CF sling force with a locking pin, the CF force once 'out' is less than the CF sling force. If you don't capture it at that point it will reduce the chance of running.


@All,

Anyone wishing to replicate should review the attached document of Bob's comments first, if you haven't seen it before.


Regards, Larry 

[rlortie]

Larry,

I understand and I give you kudos for attempting to build from the context of available knowledge. My main concern and reasoning for delay is that a lot of this information is not compatible with the visualization we have in the videos and still shots. I am hesitant in fear of seeing another Charles Campbell scenario taking place here! 

I have a contact who claims to be advising Bob on marketing and utilizing procedures. He also claims to have influence on what we see posted on his web site. At the same time he admits that he has not seen the machine or knows whether it runs or not. This person I speak of, I trust without question. He is very far away from Bob, so he has delegated a close friend to go look at Bobs status and check out his machine. I have been advised that I may expect an update  within the next week or before the end of the month. Not that it is going to matter much to us as individuals, but if it does work and Bob gets it patented and on the market then we can all sing "hallelujah and start building for personal use.

If its another Charles Campbell story then we all return to where we should be anyway, and that is either at the drafting table (Cad for some) or the shop pushing onward.   

Now back to your endeavor: There are a number of things contained in the still picture that I believe are a must, I will mention three of them. Hydraulic cylinder,  a valve body and the air compressor you see under the workbench to the far right in the picture. The machine may be either hydraulic or pneumatic, for inertia and response time I  prefer pneumatic. All those hoses and fittings are there for a reason, and I do not believe it is just for show!  In fact it would not surprise me to find electronic circuitry controlling solenoids.  (Note what looks like wires hanging down toward the hydraulic piston rod)

There is a lot in this picture that the normal observer would either dismiss or overlook. All the tie straps and wires, the hose leading to the air compressor the location and reasoning of the axis on the pulley located on the back side.

A 565% increase in picture size on a quality monitor will bring up a lot for conversation. How many members noted the washing machine discharge hose laying on the work table.Is it a component for the machine?  Is that air compressor what I think it is? a Sears Craftsman actually built by DevilBliss? 

What about those so called latches on the compression springs, I fail to see any! And are the bellows from here? http://www.ibcbellows.com/?gclid=CJSSm7WI_ZYCFRg6awodET_HXg or here
http://www.airoil.com/v6/index1.html   my choice is the first link!

Ralph Lortie           

[noonespecial]

Hi Ralph,

Your comment below caught my eye so I went back and reviewed the video.

I also feel that I have uncovered some obvious discrepancy in the video of Bob unscrewing a disc brake pad to manually start the pre-set machine. A minor concern is the number of turns he applies to the crank, count them!  Ask yourself, how far must an automotive disk brake travel to either stop or free a wheel. I am not talking about a caliper brake as found on a bicycle here.     

What I see is him releasing the pad from the brake, pushing the machine to start it and then retightening the pad to control the speed. I would think that the amount of cranks would depend on the fineness of the thread used. I believe that he could be using a caliper style clamp and the hinge point of the caliper would also affect the number or turns. So personally, I see no discrepancy.

Regards,
Charlie