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New accelerating gravity wheel ! Converted video from www.newenergymachine.com !

Started by hartiberlin, May 11, 2007, 12:49:03 AM

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Prophmaji

it always astonishes me to see that there are those who do not accept that there can be an usually are notable levels of coruption in large corporate organized entities. Government or corporate.

That is the other side of that arguement. The question is the level and type of corruption. Just spoke to a friend the other day who does patent protection and litigation for large intel based software corp. A Patent lawyer. I was told the patent has 'protection' from prying eyes for the first 18 months of it's existence.

We then note how many inventors are approached immediately upon application, concerning the level of 'secrecy' (black projects) their particular application falls under. Ths is a clear indication of how many prying eyes are involved in looking at one's given application. Then again, it is not a secrecy application system , it is a system for application of legal protection from fraud, for invention. Nothing more.

Alway remember that 'heat' can be substituted for 'time' in many formulas. (Depends on how the formula was based or created)

ashtweth_nihilisti

HI Bob and all,

We will be presenting some of our open sourced technology to certain faculties and other parties in order to help the cause.The non profit org has also added you to the list or presentation.
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/BobMary.htm

I will also be bringing your tech to the attention of our sponsors in order to help.

regards
ashtweth
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm

Prophmaji

It might not be bull. who knows. Point is, I've been approached directly by 'the bad guys' twice now. So, it does happen. At least over here, I'm willing to give someone the benefit of the doubt.

I mean, if they can't post HERE..without suffering derision..where can they go?

Once again. I live less than 2 hours away from Bob. I can go check in on him.

aleks

I guess the picture on http://www.newsourceofenergy.com/how%20it%20works.html describes it all - and fully corresponds to BobMary's initial descriptions.

Two weights are interconnected, and are sliding easily. The question is: when weights are impulsively pushed up at 6 o'clock - how much energy is stored in the air-compressor (which can be also modeled with a spring and a simple multi-level zipper-locker mechanism), between 12 and 6 o'clock? (the air-compressor is being pressed due to the centrifugal force that builds up in the interconnected weights - think of vacuum cleaner's power cord winding mechanism). The excess energy (beyond what is needed to reverse position of the weights) stored in the air-compressor can then add force to the overall torque.

It's too good to be true, but why not? Rumors say that perpetual motion gravity wheel was already invented in USSR back in 1950s... same rumors say that this invention was immediately prohibited by authorities.

By the way, nobody seems to be arguing with the fact that space satellites are gaining speed in gravity field of the planets. That's a purely free energy, created out of nowhere it seems: it is created by mass. There's probably a more in-depth scientific description exists for this fact (that involves some conservation of energy law and gravitons), but to put it short, energy is indeed created since space satellite gains speed due to planet's gravity and centrifugal force it creates. My bet is that BobMary's machine uses exactly the same fact, but stores surplus energy in a convenient form that is then reused at the most correct time: think of a satellite that travels just around two planets (or system of planets): it can gain speed infinitely (with some minor corrections to its trajectory).

jeffc

Quote from: Prophmaji on September 11, 2007, 12:13:32 PM
it always astonishes me to see that there are those who do not accept that there can be an usually are notable levels of coruption in large corporate organized entities. Government or corporate.

That is the other side of that arguement. The question is the level and type of corruption. Just spoke to a friend the other day who does patent protection and litigation for large intel based software corp. A Patent lawyer. I was told the patent has 'protection' from prying eyes for the first 18 months of it's existence.

We then note how many inventors are approached immediately upon application, concerning the level of 'secrecy' (black projects) their particular application falls under. Ths is a clear indication of how many prying eyes are involved in looking at one's given application. Then again, it is not a secrecy application system , it is a system for application of legal protection from fraud, for invention. Nothing more.

Alway remember that 'heat' can be substituted for 'time' in many formulas. (Depends on how the formula was based or created)

"there can be an usually are notable levels of coruption"  is a statement of opinion which I am sure you have no research or statistical data to support.  While I will agree it is certainly possible for corruption to exist in an entity of ANY size, assuming that it is usually happening just because it is possible iust cannot be logical.

Yes, as I said before 18 months is the "normal" process, but there are procedural elements that can delay that. 

"We then note how many inventors are approached immediately upon application"  -- again, I'd like to understand where you've obtained information that indicates how often this happens, if at all.  This, like your comment on corruption seems to be an assumption, not based on factual information you've obtained or personal experience.

I will agree with you however that the patent application process is intended for legal protection, not perfect secrecy.  The patent process was designed specifically as a publishing process, focused on the spread of invention information. 

As to inventors being approached by people after application, there are multiple possibilities:

1) Many inventors talk about their inventions quite a bit, especially after submitting an application  - I have seen this happen

2) When you submit the application, even while the document itself is not published, the title to the application is available to ANYONE.  The title is a great indication of what the invention does and could lead to inquiry.  Also, the inventor name and city/state is public, making it easy to find the person. - I have also seen this happen

3) I'm not sure about legal/policy issues, but even if an application's content is unpublished, those who are exposed to it at the USPTO may be able to mention the concept of it to an outsider without violating law - I have NOT seen this happen, but it could only be classified as "corruption" IF there is a law or USPTO policy against it.  IF this does happen, which may be possible, and IF it is corruption, then in my opinion it is not logical that it be widespread.

BUT in any case, the secrecy part of the application process really isn't the core intent of the patent process anyway, its really just a way to give the inventor time to get the patent application perfected and incorporate up-to-date variations and adjustments to their invention in the finalized application, and to of course deal with any prior art issues.

So, is it possible that the bad, large, corporate monsters find out about inventions before the application is published?  Yes.  Do most of the predictable ways that can happen involve some sort of "curruption" or criminal activity?  Doesn't seem likely.  Wouldn't you agree that it would be much easier for Microsoft to monitor a listing of patent applications submitted every month (public information), then follow up on the ones that have titles that sound interesting?  Thats an easy way to talk to inventors before publication, and it doesn't require any illegal activity.

Anyway, if we all spent more time inventing instead of being paranoid the world would be a much better place.

Regards,
jeffc