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Overunity Machines Forum



Controller circuit for Hilden Brandt motor needed..

Started by hartiberlin, May 19, 2007, 12:56:53 PM

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utilitarian

Quote from: JackH on May 27, 2008, 09:56:35 PM
Hello utilitarian,

It not only turns the permanet magnet ON/OFF, but it amplifies the permanent magnet by 4 times to the rotor.

Later,,,,,,JackH


Great, here is my advice.  Just demonstrate this effect in action.  That is all you need to do to convince people that your motor runs.  Showing someone the running motor just confuses things and raises questions like, "well, I am not convinced there is more out than in."  Show a permament magnet becoming instantly demagnetized and then remagnetized, and that's all you need to do to get funding.

Nali2001

Well here is a MagnetON/OFF Hildenbrand type valve test.
Test shows with and without a magnets - same power input.
http://www.krystyna.nl/Machine/MagnetExtraPower.wmv

And do believe me it is almost locked solid with the magnet added.
And yes that is 1 watt input (in both cases)

Regards,
Steven

JackH

Hello Steven,

I downloaded your video clip,   I was going down to the shop to get a video of it but, but could not have done it better.

Thanks Steven, It was nice of you to do that.  People have a hard time beleiving me anyway.

Thanks Again,,,,,,,Jack W Hildenbrand

utilitarian

Quote from: Nali2001 on May 28, 2008, 09:21:33 AM
Well here is a MagnetON/OFF Hildenbrand type valve test.
Test shows with and without a magnets - same power input.
http://www.krystyna.nl/Machine/MagnetExtraPower.wmv

And do believe me it is almost locked solid with the magnet added.
And yes that is 1 watt input (in both cases)

Regards,
Steven

I may be missing something here, but this looks like a simple demonstration of an electromagnet.  I thought the idea was to turn a permanent magnet off and on?

Nali2001

Hi there Utilitarian,
Well yes and no.
With little power you can "redirect" the field of the magnet and it adds-to the electro magnet field, resulting in a bigger combined magnetic force. If it is not clear from the video. You can see that with the electro magnet only one can move the second core section around with not too much effort (not that much holding force). But once the magnets are added and the same electro magnet is engaged (with the same power) you now have the field of the electro magnet, as well as the field of the permanent magnet added together through the second core section. Giving it an greatly increased 'holding force' and as you can see in the video once the magnets are added to the electro magnet one can hardly move the secondary core section anymore. Beauty of it is that once the power is shut down. The field of the permanent magnet returns instantly to its position of least resistance, and thus it returns into the main core again, releasing its grip on the secondary core. So you can see this as a valve that 'valves' magnetism 1/2 of the total magnetism is from the electro magnet and the other half is supplied by the magnets. Main point of it all is that the magnets-on-the-core situation gives you much more holding force then the electro magnet alone (for the same power input).

Steven