HOW to use Radio Frequency as Catalyst!!!! TPU in Water!! Patent Here-->

[g_mudie]

Interesting!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLKExuHlQMQ&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kKtKSEQBeI

[Rufe0]

How about using this in PEM fuel cells, the reason fuel cells are so expensive is because they need silver or other catalysists.

[leeroyjenkinsii]

I'll give you a cool simple little experiment to try along these lines.  Take a 20 oz bottle cap and fill it 3/4 full of water.  Then put a teaspoon of salt in it.  Put it in the microwave for 1 minute and small sparks and flames will shoot form the bottlecap.  You may have to play with the amounts of salt and water.  I have done this many times so I can tell you from my experience it is safe.  Try it and post your results here.

[Humbugger]

This patent, like many many others, is totally bogus.  It simply doesn't work.  If the platinum and/or palladium could be eliminated from catalytic converters by using a simple low power RF signal, believe me...it would be standard practice by now, six years after this patent published.

Platinum is almost $1300 per ounce and there have been enormous efforts by several large auto companies to reduce or eliminate the need to use it.  Palladium is cheaper but four times as much is needed compared to platinum for the same results. 

One of the biggest misconceptions about resonance is that things give off energy at their resonant frequencies all the time.  Does a bell ring when it is just sitting there by itself?  Does a tuning fork vibrate on its own?  Believe me, a bar of platinum does not transmit an RF signal any more than a bar of iron or a chunk of wood or a ball of yarn. 

According to Wiki "NMR", the NMR frequency is not a fixed number for a given material but rather:  "NMR resonant frequencies for a particular substance are directly proportional to the strength of the applied magnetic field."  If this is true, then even the concept that a given catalyst material has some fixed "NMR frequency" is fundamentally flawed.

A big sign that this guy who writes the patent is clueless comes when he says that nobody really knows how catalysts work because they are inert and not consumed but they must be present to complete the reaction.  He is among the few chemistry buffs who have no clue how catalysis works.

From Wiki "Catalysis" definition:

"Catalysts generally react with one or more reactants to form a chemical intermediate that subsequently reacts to form the final reaction product, in the process regenerating the catalyst."

So, the catalyst actually does have to physically be there and does react with the other elements.  It is only "effectively or virtually inert" in the sense that an equal amount that is temporarily consumed to obtain the initial catalytic reaction is subsequently returned at the end of the reaction.

Sorry...can't fool Mother Nature with 50 cents worth of GASFETs!


Humbugger

[hansvonlieven]

G'day all,

There seems to be a misunderstanding here as to how a catalyst works and why it is unchanged after the reaction is over. Perhaps this will help:


There are two ways in which catalysts work. You already know that when two different molecules bump into each other, they might react to make new chemicals. We usually talk about "collisions" between molecules, it would be much simpler to say that the molecules bumped into each other. How fast a chemical reaction is depends upon how frequently the molecules collide. You have probably been told about the "kinetic theory" which is all about heat and how fast molecules move around. What catalysts are doing when they make a chemical reaction go faster is to increase the chance of molecules colliding. The first method is by "adsorption", the second method is by the formation of intermediate compounds.

Adsorption This occurs when a molecule sticks onto the surface of a catalyst. Make sure that you spell this word correctly; it is not the same as absorption. Here is an example: it is possible to use Platinum as a catalyst to make sulphur Trioxide from Sulphur Dioxide and Oxygen. Sulphur Trioxide is very important because it is used to make Sulphuric acid which is needed for car batteries. The molecules of the two gases (Sulphur Dioxide and Oxygen) get adsorbed (stuck onto) the surface of a Platinum catalyst. Because the two molecules are held so close together, it is more likely that they will collide and therefore react with each other. The Sulphur Trioxide easily falls off the catalyst leaving space for more Sulphur Trioxide and Oxygen.

Intermediate Compounds Many catalysts, including all enzymes" work by forming intermediate compounds. What happens is very simple: the chemicals involved in the reaction combine with the catalyst making an intermediate compound, but this new compound is very unstable. When the intermediate compound breaks down it releases the new compounds and the original catalyst.

Hans von Lieven