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Proof of concept - perturbing a static magnetic field

Started by bob.rennips, May 30, 2007, 12:57:25 PM

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Bruce_TPU

Frequency odd, yes.  But think three dimensionally.  Think Longitudinal wave sent at the same time opposing each other on a conductor in a magnetic field.  There is much more to it, but that is the short version.

Now we understand the story of the diamond needle from SM...The impossible being made possible.   As soon as EM post's his documentation, we must all confirm.

I have said sound waves a hundred times on my thread.  I even said that was what was meant by the airplane breaking the sound barrier and HOW the engineers achieved this.  They achieved it by placing the test configurations inside of a Transonic (sound) pressure tunnel!  :)

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

bob.rennips

Here's a run down of where I'm at with my experiments as setout when I started this thread.

I can tell you what DOESN'T work.

1. Solenoid air core electromagnet to create the static field - DOES NOT WORK. For reasons that have now been explained by ZPE. It paraphrase ZPE it reduces the size of the pulses because it in effect puts a load on the 'transformer'.

2. 5000Volts DC at a few milliamps to create a very weak static field - DOES NOT WORK.

3. Both of the above have been comboed with input pulses into single coils and bifilar coils - parallel, inversed, and alternatly pulsed up to 3MHz.

4. Wrapping coils around a solid cylindrical magnet is not EFFECTIVE. I wrapped one coil around as an input for the pulses, and another for the output. The coupling between the coils was poor. I obtained a very strange transient effect where an AC sinewave appeared on the output coil, just after the input pulse was turned off. The strange effect was their was no ramp up nor ramp down of the sine wave. It just appeared, with a fixed amplitude, for around 3/4 of the off pulse, and then dissappeared. The effect is very transient and I've been unable to capture on camara. Earl can confirm that I PM'd him earlier in the week concerning this result.

My permanent magnet core was made of three,   1 cm diameter, 1 cm long cylindrical neodym magnets. These magnets have seen some abuse so have chips around the edges. I believe the transient result is due to something happening in the limited empty space due to the chips in the center of the coil around the magnets.

If you consider a ring magnet with north-south as per Earl's posting, you have a magnetic flow IN the material of the magnet itself going UPWARDS - let's label this flow 'X'. But on the outside of the ring (flow 'Y') and within the center of the ring (flow 'Z'), both in AIR, you have a magnetic flow going DOWNWARDS.


The Over Unity effect, I believe, occurs when you have both of these flows. Consider SM's larger coil. Thin walled and vertical - designed to bring these two flows as close together as possible. These are then perturbed by pulsing coils or better still rotated by a rotating magnetic field.

Consider what happens if you apply a rotating magnetic field to these two flows (Y and Z). You get a dual magnetic vortex BUT WITH ONE IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE YOU HAVE TWO FLOWS MOVING AT TWO DIFFERENT LINEAR SPEEDS. The flow on the outside, flow Y, has a larger diameter than the inside flow, Z. Therefore their linear speeds will be different.

The FM is not what is causing the brnbrade effects. The Frequency Modulation has already been removed by the walkman by the time it gets to the headphone output as part and parcel of demodulating the signal.

What is more relevant is that the main high amplitude output will be in the range of 0-20,000khz, with harmonics I would guess into the 40,000khz.

It is the action of pulsing dual flows.


bob.rennips

Quote from: btentzer on June 24, 2007, 10:20:31 AM
Frequency odd, yes.  But think three dimensionally.  Think Longitudinal wave sent at the same time opposing each other on a conductor in a magnetic field.  There is much more to it, but that is the short version.

Now we understand the story of the diamond needle from SM...The impossible being made possible.   As soon as EM post's his documentation, we must all confirm.

I have said sound waves a hundred times on my thread.  I even said that was what was meant by the airplane breaking the sound barrier and HOW the engineers achieved this.  They achieved it by placing the test configurations inside of a Transonic (sound) pressure tunnel!  :)

Cheers,
Bruce

Sorry Bruce. You are way off on this. The important aspect is the RING MAGNET.

I've been experimenting with permanent magnets for the last few weeks, since starting this thread. Earl will no doubt have more to say.

Electrical audio signals are NOT LONGITUDINAL. This is NOT about SOUND WAVES. This is about electrical pulses in the 0-20khz region acting on the dual magnetic flows.

Check back on some of my posts months ago concerning the need for a static magnetic field, and the advancement of the theory that the top and bottom coils of the SM TPU where in effect helm holz coils, powered by DC current, with a feedback of DC from the center output coil back into the top and bottom coils.

bob.rennips

Quote from: btentzer on June 24, 2007, 10:20:31 AM
Frequency odd, yes.  But think three dimensionally.  Think Longitudinal wave sent at the same time opposing each other on a conductor in a magnetic field.  There is much more to it, but that is the short version.

NO. These are transverse electrical waves. There is nothing longitudinal about them in sense you are talking about. Pure voltage may be a longitudinal effect but once current flows we are talking transverse.

Longitudinal sound waves ONLY appears when you have something physically vibrating and then you are talking about air molecules vibrating longitudinally. That is why speakers/headphones have a diaphram that moves in and out to create the longitudinal waves.

SM's quote on breaking the sounds barrier was a metaphor and not meant to be taken literally. What he was saying is that the sound barrier was broken by making incremental increases in performance.

He was trying to suggest that rather than trying to build a TPU straight up with overunity you go for incremental improvements in input power to output power. That you start with getting the few kicks going, which will be under unity and slowly but surely get to the point where you have enough kicks to get overunity.

A point not lost on Otto in his run of incremental experiments.

bob.rennips

Now moving to what Otto is doing.

I hope everyone sees the parallels between Otto having two different sized (different diameter), 1-turn coils and the concept of dual magnetic flows moving at different linear speeds.

This is the key effect I think we should all be building on.