Chas Campbell free power motor

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Hum, your entitled to your opinion, but you fail to observe  the results, if your not working for the oil companies perhaps you should be.

our testing wasn't conclusive and needs more thorough investigation. there is still more ways to  test a continuous pulsed duty cycle out, and improve the efficiency, people haven't even seen  the video yet, unless your reading from a crystal ball your better off side lined for now IMO.

More testing needs to be done and will give us all the info we need, I think your attitude isn't really on par with being able to benefit ATM.

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>Look at all the dozens of claims published all over the web, including on this site and on panacea, Ashtweth's site. Free energy!  The world's children need this now!  Please donate!   Come on, man!   Now that you have seen for yourself that it isn't true, you should remove the false claims

Also Hum, you going to tell me all the devices listed here don't work - don't need attention and donation?

http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/RandDprinciples.htm

That is what we say ALONG with the investigation and grants needed with the Chas system.

They and Chas have very sound ideas as well, and needs donation/investigation and understanding, after viewing his gravity wheel and ideas there is no doubt in my mind he could piss on any idea you could come up with

Hum, im going to go off the record now to say you seem to unnecessary piss people off and YOU dont know every thing, in fact i think you really have allot to study, besides conventional theories. thats off the record. And i would change your attitude and not try and offend people

ashtweth

[Humbugger]

Hum, your entitled to your opinion, but you fail to observe  the resutls, our testing wasn't conclusive and needs more thorough investigation. there is still more ways to get continuous and test a pulsed duty cycle, and improve the efficiency, people havent even seen  the video yet, unless your reading from a crystal ball your better off side lined for now IMO.

more testing that needs to be done and will give us all the info we need, I think your attitude isnt really on par with being able to benefit ATM.

My point is that somehow at some point long ago, you and many others decided there was sufficient information to publish many remarkable claims about this machine...not some future iteration of it...the existing machine.  Apparently, all of those hundreds of claims one can find about this machine on the web and elsewhere had no foundation at all. 

Now that the first basic simple tests have been done and utter failure has been shown, it seems that you are saying not enough testing has been done!   What body of evidence and test results were used as the basis for all the amazing claims?

So, zero testing is sufficient to publicly proclaim miraculous performance and to then use those claims to raise money in the name of the world's children but, when test 1 shows normal non-miraculous ordinary dissapointing results, it is deemed insufficient.  How odd.  How unscientific.  How sad and pathetic. 

I am not here to benefit or promote false beliefs or to help you to do so.  If you think that means I have a bad attitude, so be it.  My attitude is intended to promote the truth and scientific method and clear communication and the genuine progress of knowledge.  I make no claims as to having much success at any of those goals here, but at least I am not here to cheerlead any money-raising efforts based on fraudulent claims.

Humbugger

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

And also Hum the person who described that system to TRY and improve the duty cycle and get a continuous load out, was RAVI, who has replicated Meyer water fuel cell, he also got TWO visits from spooks.

If you know more then him let me see you reproduce what he has and tell him his ideas are shit, and you know more then he does. I said the same to do this With David Kous's battery charging RV system, test it, dont sit there and tell us what doesn't work when its based on an experiment.
Same as the Chas ideas.

its not going to happen hum, your an arm chair enthus person, replicate don't sit there and offend people you may not like whats ahead.And i would re read my post i edited it to be less of a reactive mind To you offending myself.

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Hum, your entitled to your opinion, but you fail to observe  the resutls, our testing wasn't conclusive and needs more thorough investigation. there is still more ways to get continuous and test a pulsed duty cycle, and improve the efficiency, people havent even seen  the video yet, unless your reading from a crystal ball your better off side lined for now IMO.

more testing that needs to be done and will give us all the info we need, I think your attitude isnt really on par with being able to benefit ATM.

My point is that somehow at some point long ago, you and many others decided there was sufficient information to publish many remarkable claims about this machine...not some future iteration of it...the existing machine.  Apparently, all of those hundreds of claims one can find about this machine on the web and elsewhere had no foundation at all. 

Now that the first basic simple tests have been done and utter failure has been shown, it seems that you are saying not enough testing has been done!   What body of evidence and test results were used as the basis for all the amazing claims?

So, zero testing is sufficient to publicly proclaim miraculous performance and to then use those claims to raise money in the name of the world's children but, when test 1 shows normal non-miraculous ordinary dissapointing results, it is deemed insufficient.  How odd.  How unscientific.  How sad and pathetic. 

I am not here to benefit or promote false beliefs or to help you to do so.  If you think that means I have a bad attitude, so be it.  My attitude is intended to promote the truth and scientific method and clear communication and the genuine progress of knowledge.  I make no claims as to having much success at any of those goals here, but at least I am not here to cheerlead any money-raising efforts based on fraudulent claims.

Humbugger

Exactly what is it you think we are claiming on Chas's device, What we state on his gravity wheel i stand by, the need for more investigation on his motor Gen/fly wheel set up i stand by too. The need for his ideas to be endorsed and investigated more and grant backed i also stand by.

The need for beings like you to study more the nature of these devices i stand by
the need for your attitude to change and not piss people off i still stand by'

the need for you to base your claims on verifiable tests, not speculation i also stand by, this is what we are doing with Chas's system so far. More investigation.

I have wasted enough time for now Hum,

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Hum, your entitled to your opinion, but you fail to observe  the resutls, our testing wasn't conclusive and needs more thorough investigation. there is still more ways to get continuous and test a pulsed duty cycle, and improve the efficiency, people havent even seen  the video yet, unless your reading from a crystal ball your better off side lined for now IMO.

more testing that needs to be done and will give us all the info we need, I think your attitude isnt really on par with being able to benefit ATM.

My point is that somehow at some point long ago, you and many others decided there was sufficient information to publish many remarkable claims about this machine...not some future iteration of it...the existing machine.  Apparently, all of those hundreds of claims one can find about this machine on the web and elsewhere had no foundation at all. 

Now that the first basic simple tests have been done and utter failure has been shown, it seems that you are saying not enough testing has been done!   What body of evidence and test results were used as the basis for all the amazing claims?

So, zero testing is sufficient to publicly proclaim miraculous performance and to then use those claims to raise money in the name of the world's children but, when test 1 shows normal non-miraculous ordinary dissapointing results, it is deemed insufficient.  How odd.  How unscientific.  How sad and pathetic. 

I am not here to benefit or promote false beliefs or to help you to do so.  If you think that means I have a bad attitude, so be it.  My attitude is intended to promote the truth and scientific method and clear communication and the genuine progress of knowledge.  I make no claims as to having much success at any of those goals here, but at least I am not here to cheerlead any money-raising efforts based on fraudulent claims.

Humbugger

>My point is that somehow at some point long ago, you and many others decided there was sufficient information to publish many remarkable claims about this machine...not some future iteration of it...the existing machine.  Apparently, all of those hundreds of claims one can find about this machine on the web and elsewhere had no foundation at all. 

Okay listen up, hum, my patience is running very thin with you BTW

If your referring to me Hum, being panacea, the panacea page objectively published how to go about disclosing his device, what political and economic conditions were ahead given the nature of his device, and how to go about explaining an COP of more then one to the faculties. Plus that it wasn't justified that the government and faculties dont investigate it. We published what was claimed by Chas.

We went in to investigate our selfs and are still doing that, we have found his gravity wheel to be fine, and that his motor gen-fly wheel needs experimentation and more tests.

>Now that the first basic simple tests have been done and utter failure has been shown, it seems that you are saying not enough testing has been done!   What body of evidence and test results were used as the basis for all the amazing claims?

No utter failure has been shown, we tried some pulsed load and based on the ideas we have to improve the efficiency of his motor fly wheel, we will verify its duty cycle as request by ours and others. Chas never statednhe could load his system continuous, read and wake up hum , don't continue to piss me off and waste my time here.

Im sarting to think your an oil man mate, i would be careful offending people, and trying to TELL ME what i have done. change you attitude, or i might start offending you.

>I am not here to benefit or promote false beliefs or to help you to do so.  If you think that means I have a bad attitude, so be it.  My attitude is intended to promote the truth and scientific method and clear communication and the genuine progress of knowledge.  I make no claims as to having much success at any of those goals here, but at least I am not here to cheerlead any money-raising efforts based on fraudulent claims.

you going to be a basis for insults soon Hum. Also I know some oil man are here, hope you dont get caught being one.