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Overunity Machines Forum



Chas Campbell free power motor

Started by TheOne, June 04, 2007, 10:25:17 PM

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ashtweth_nihilisti

After over an hour of going through posts i found the request.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47830.html#msg47830

Guys if Stefan agrees some one should starting another Test results/request thread, too much to sort through here. Any test request please state them here and stay on topic i cannot sort through pages upon pages thanks. Who wants the fun job to filter out the Chas R and D ideas from here for the new threads?, count me out of that one.

?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
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Humbugger

Quote from: ashtweth_nihilisti on September 12, 2007, 02:14:22 AM
After over an hour of going through posts i found the request.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47830.html#msg47830

Guys if Stefan agrees some one should starting another Test results/request thread, too much to sort through here. Any test request please state them here and stay on topic i cannot sort through pages upon pages thanks. Who wants the fun job to filter out the Chas R and D ideas from here for the new threads?, count me out of that one.



I found Stefan's post for it in under one minute.  Just search Stefan's posts.  It was quick to home in on the page, then the post itself.  As far as "sanitizing" this thread by extracting only the posts you feel are worthy to a new thread, I guess you'd have to do that.  If it would be a "Test results/request thread" as you call it, it would be pretty short. 

In terms of actual reported test results, you'd have Stefan's first report of the garbled phone call, then his second report of the clear phone call, then your real long post where the few sparse test results you reported are buried in the middle of a huge dissertation on RV claims.  That's a mere three posts and I'll be happy to find them if you like (of course...how would you tell me?).

If you really wanted to add the various "requests", it would get somewhat longer, with quite of few of my posts asking specific questions and you giving your reasons for not making the measurements.  There were a number of others who also made requests for specific test information.  But all those are kind of empty in terms of testing and reporting results, so I doubt you'd want them in the new thread.

Then there are the suggestions for test methods, both before and after your visit.  You pretty much ignored all of the testing suggestions that came before, (when you figured out the machine was way below unity and your engineers took their watthour meters and went home, and after Charles informed you that only pulsed loads would provide the special free energy mode of operation) and since they all involved steady-state testing which is apparently out, you'd probably want to leave those out, too.

So, if your new thread had just the two phone reports from Stefan and your one long post I mentioned and then added the few suggestions you seem open to from yourself and from Stefan (after the visit), which I can readily find for you, you'd have a real sanitized clean little thread.

Humbugger

Humbugger

@Ashtweth @Stefan

I've decided, in the spirit of cooperation and progress, to compile for you here a set of links as discussed above,  including only the three posts where actual test results are reported and the posts afterward regarding pulsed-output test suggestions.  This will take a while, so I will be editing this post for the next while. 

By the way, by far the vast majority of the posts unrelated to test and measurement of Chas Electric machine are totally on-topic regarding Chas gravity wheel.  If Chas had not been such a "showman" and purposely presented the two machines as if they were one, these two entirely seperate discussions would have never gotten mingled.

"did you ask Chas, what this red plastic offcenter thing was in the CD video
in his big wheel there ?"  ~  Stefan

"it is nothing special, he only had his big wheel going there for show and  to distract from his motor flywheel set up."  ~  Ashtweth


Actual test reports from Ashtweth, some via Stefan:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg46866.html#msg46866

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47018.html#msg47018

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47188.html#msg47188

Suggestions re Pulsed Output Testing

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47361.html#msg47361  Ashtweth

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47381.html#msg47381  Ashtweth

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47399.html#msg47399  Humbugger

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47469.html#msg47469  Wattsup

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47497.html#msg47497  Iosh

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47562.html#msg47562  Ashtweth

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47563.html#msg47563  Ashtweth

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47564.html#msg47564  Ashtweth

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47740.html#msg47740  Humbugger

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47748.html#msg47748  Ashtweth (Pulser Sch)

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47755.html#msg47755  Humbugger

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47758.html#msg47758  Ashtweth

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47760.html#msg47760  Stefan

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47765.html#msg47765  Ashtweth

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47830.html#msg47830  Stefan

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg47940.html#msg47940 Markdansie

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg48212.html#msg48212  Ashtweth (Pulse Sch)

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg48340.html#msg48340  Hans (Diagram Post)

That is all.  There is not much really there in terms of an actual test plan except your own posts and a couple of good words from Stefan about loads and keeping accurate track of duty cycle. 

The pulsed load method offers all kinds of opportunity to get bad measurements involving peak momentary output power.  I'll reserve further comment until I see what kind of testing you actually do.


I have enjoyed reviewing the thread and acting as your secretary.


Humbugger







Dingus Mungus

???

A Watthour meter measures with power factor...
Pulsed loads or input would be very accurately read...

I'm still saying a wattmeter would simplify and be
more accurate regardless of load characteristics.
Over complication will lead to confusion and errors.

~Dingus

ashtweth_nihilisti

Dingus Mungus

Watt hour meters will be used as well
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm