Chas Campbell free power motor

[shruggedatlas]

I understand that the weight will be less when its moving down the Tube..

If you do understand that, it is a new realization.  You were swearing that the ball rolling down the ramp inside the wheel still imparts its full downward force to the wheel during the roll.  Here is what you said:

When the ball rolls on his down-slanted PVC "intake" pipes, Gravity is still pulling it down
with the same force.   But additionally, when the ball hits the waiting spot - it imparts
the balls extra energy to the wheel. 

What you still do not understand, however, is how irrelevant the calculation of the impact force is.  Instead of calculating that, we are assuming the ball is teleported into the receptacle cup in the outer wheel as soon as it leaves the top of the inner wheel.  If you cannot understand that having the ball in the wheel receptacle earlier (and therefore higher) is equal to waiting on the ball to roll down the ramp inside the wheel and then impact the receptacle a second or whatever later, then you do not understand some basic laws regarding potential and kinetic energy.  You are not doing anyone a service by urging them to make these pointless calculations, and by pointing this out, hopefully I am saving someone the needless effort.  This is why skeptics like Hum are useful - they can save people alot of time.

[zero]

Yes, it is a new realization.  I am open to learning.  Just not open to bashings
and people launching false claims and neglect of  factual data.   As well
as overly negative and nonconstructive and deconstructive commentary.

The ball being in the wheel immediately has fractional value over its
time in the slide.   Yet the energy created from the slide will impart
significantly much more energy.

You have not proven to me that its the other way around.  Nor will you,
because its not true.

[sevich]

Place your weight on the ramp on your scales and allow it to roll down the ramp, falling off the end and off the scales.
Did it show the same weight as when it was sitting still ?? No. Why ?
Gravity will pull the weight downwards but, the ramp translates some of that downward force into lateral force. The weight is pushed sideways. Therefore, when being displaced by the ramp, the weight registers less on the scales.
The RoadRunner..

Same can be said of an "hour glass" which weighs less when active! .....mmmm, if sand was substituted for ball bearings and ........

PS............it's a pitty Hum was banned ...........I  enjoyed reading his posts although colourful at times but nevertheles interesting and very humorous   

[zero]

Im not expert in math and physics...  however, lets assume some fake
numbers here:


Shown here is a representation of 2 versions of the wheel.   

A) Green ball which is gently rolled into place
B) Blue ball which is thrust at a 45 degree angle downwards

- Each place where the balls are represent 1 second of time
(not realistic, but good enough for the point)

- On the right, there is a scale that approximates the weight energy output

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Now, right off the bat, the BLUE ball dives at a slant.  It loses a theoretical
1/4 its original weight energy durring that 1second of time.     

However.. its acceleration during that time, theoretically multiplies the weight
by a factor of two.   

(An example of this would be a Bowling ball handed to you -vs- tossed at you.   The
weight energy is multiplied)

These figures may be higher or lower.   But, with heavier weights, its possible that
the output forces on the blue side will be even more significant.


The Green balls energy always stays constant.

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At the end, the Blue ball gains energy over the green... even with the
losses.   Sure, it may not be by much... but, it may be enough to
keep the wheel overbalenced and overcome any losses.

Is this what will happen?   Are the figures correct?   

I dont know.   But... I do know that it is a factor that
must be token into account. 

[helmut]

I dont know the right Statement about Humb.

But i know,how it feels:  if  your Horizon is taken by someone,
or if someone directs via my imperfect work.

Or like it feels, if you want to build a tree house for your child and it comes one and says: The tree is too small.
I point, how it is, if one plans a Adveture journey, and more skeptiker wants to convince one, does not in addition-drive, because terrorists are to live there.
Or it comes one and wants to say itself, which one cannot do sail backwards with a sailing boat  .

This forum lives because of the prospect on the impossible.
Who knows the formulas, should use them constructionally, and be ready to rewrite them the other day.
The way to the free energy is long and cumbersome. The caravan will achieve its goal only if it remains in motion.
If the most perfekt engineer drives the slowest car, then the Others must be allowed to overhaul him also.

Humbugger does have my respekt
And Steffans job an the Forum  might be harder as we can imagine.

helmut