Chas Campbell free power motor

[linda933]

"You can call this futile flight all you want to, but you will never really know until you personally explore the phenomenon."   

WHAT PHENOMENON?  I KEEP ASKING, BUT GET NO ANSWER!  THE ONLY PHENOMENA I SEE ASSOCIATED WITH CHARLES CAMPBELL'S CLAIMS AND DEVICES ARE SELF AND GROUP DELUSION, OUTRIGHT FRAUD AND ENDLESS WISHFUL THINKING.  THOSE ARE WHAT I'M "PERSONALLY EXPLORING" UNTIL SOMEONE ANSWERS THE QUESTION!

"You can call this futile flight all you want to, but you will never really know until you personally explore the phenomenon."

This (oft-expressed here) stupid idea flies directly in the face of the essence of learning and accumulation of built-up knowledge.  It more than implies, yes it actually demands, that nothing learned by anyone else prior, regardless of how many times, no matter how well proven or demonstrated or disproven and eliminated by how many learned experimenters, none of prior learned knowledge is valid, ever!  That suggests; no...it plainly states...that everything must be learned only from personal experimentation.  That's just plain arrogant and dumb, my friend!   Absolutely stupid statement.  

"It's easy to sit back and criticize and ridicule those who are trying something new. However, nothing new has ever been discovered by people who do this. It's the guys in the garage who don't give up, and keep plugging away at it who find success."  

No...I don't ridicule those who are trying something new.  I ridicule those who keep trying things that are so well known not to have any chance of working, like the Charles Campbell or Jesse McQueen (or any other contraption of motors. generators, gears, pullies and flywheels), that it defies all reason to keep trying.  To me, it is just as intuitively obvious that these silly ideas can never work as it is obvious that I shall never be able to lift myself into the sky with my own hands tugging on my bottom.

Do you really picture a mechanical contraption put together with off-the-shelf standard motors. dynamos and mechanical transmission elements suddenly taking off and running itself?  It's not even learned physics I rely on to discard such utterly dumb hopes...it's just the same basic common sense everyday knowledge of the way things work...same way i know the butt-tugging won't work.

I just can't believe people who claim to have some gray matter and savvy about technical physical things can buy into such totally idiotic delusions as the Charles Campbell or Jesse McQueen frauds any more than they would believe it if they were told someone had lifted their own butt into smooth and free flight by tugging upward.  

To answer your question as to why I'm here...I just have to say there are two reasons:

1.  It is extremely amusing and enlightening in regard to human folly, the psychology of deception, belief, faith and hope.  The avoidance of critical thinking and the invention of pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo in an ego-driven sociological group psychology setting is fascinating to me.  Look at how many words have been said here in response to my simple question, yet still, no one answers!

2.  I like to look for any really new developments that could possibly provide overunity, despite my present belief that none ever have or will be found.  Is that okay with you?  I study engineering and psychology and I find sorting through the posts here and stimulating certain responses to be educational and fascinating.  Thanks!

Linda

[linda933]

@Linda,
I got into to this because I thought finding out the reason why it is not possible would give me something to do. You know, instead of doing crossword puzzles, I studied and analyzed this behavior.
Lots and lots of math later, I realized a basic requiremnet of a perpetual wheel. Momentum needs to be generated while balance is pursued. And this would be the mass generating the momentum.

Is this supposed to be profound?  "Momentum needs to be generated while balance is pursued"?  And monkeys need to fly out of my ass!  What are you saying?  Anything?  More blather...circular semantics.

Are you trying to say that a flywheel in itself "generates" momentum?  What generates the momentum is the energy you put into the flywheel.  And, no matter how you do it, you will never be able to take more out than you put in.  Otherwise, flywheels would spin up on their own without limit and explode once the velocity-induced forces exceeded the physical integrity.  It is the very Laws of Energy Conservation that keeps all this stuff usefully bounded in the realm of reality. 

Linda

[shruggedatlas]

How does any of us know for certain that it cannot be done?  Why are not more of us attempting and discussing various nuances and approaches to this "possibility of" directly-self-powered anti-gravitational flight using only our bare hands?  Children often attempt it!  Fortunately, they fail each time or there would be a rash of 911 calls from terrified mothers whose children had floated away.

It is debunkers like you who are having a chilling effect on self-powered flight research.  Your attempts at ridiculing this area of study are exactly what Big Air wants.  Can you imagine what would happen if we had self-powered flight?  All the airlines would go out of business and there would be financial collapse.  The powers that be, including President Bush and Dick Cheney, who all have considerable stock holdings in airlines, are already doing all they can to suppress self-powered flight.  Are you on their payroll?

Let me be the first to say NO, we will not be suppressed.  With enough open source community effort, we will have self-powered flight.  Then, we will have a truly free world where people are free to go where they please, and the government cannot shut down air travel on a whim (look at what happened after the fake 9/11 event - did you ever stop to think what was so important that day that the government had to ground all planes?).  This is why government does not want self-powered flight: the FAA would not be able to control travel and keep tabs on our citizenry, as they fly from state to state.

It is well known already that in parts of Asia, there has been considerable progress into self-powered flight.  Mainstream media are of course too vested with the airline industry to report anything about this, and any leaks are written off as silly Aladdin magic carpet fantasies, but do not be fooled.  There are many websites dedicated to spreading the truth about self-powered flight.  Open your mind.

Why do you think that when the government faked 9/11, they put Middle Eastern "terrorists" on planes?  Why would Middle Eastern people need to be on planes if they already had self-powered flight?  It does not make sense, does it?  Think.  Connect the dots.  It is a plot to convince us that there is no self-powered flight in the Middle East.

Please, do not spread disinformation here.  Big Air can pull the wool over the sheeple in the rest of the world, but not here.

[linda933]

@ShruggedAtlas

ohhh...hummm...guess I'm busted, eh?  Should I admit now that i'm paid by "Big Air"?  Hilarious post, for a lawyer!  LOL

I really did astrally project once, but I wasn't tugging on my own butt at the time.  It was like dreaming, but I was awake and the places I went were later verified as appearing as I saw them.  And my physical bod was left behind, thus no laws of physics were violated.

I still say all this talk about self-powered butt-tugging flight is pure Humbug! 

Linda

[linda933]

So why do some here continue to believe there is a sound foundation of possibilities here? 


 I study engineering and psychology and I find sorting through the posts here and stimulating certain responses to be educational and fascinating.  Thanks!

Linda

  Linda, I think you're alright. Why do I think it is possible ? Math. Engineering and science are both based on them.
So when I look at a specific design and apply the laws of physics and see momentum is generated, why not try it ?
It could be that because some people say it is impossible that people who do try it, over complicate it.
When I was in the Navy, they taught us the KISS principle. It is something that I have remembered.
But just like anything else, to become familiar with something new takes time.
If you take the time to read pequaides thread, you might find it interesting. But haven't seen you comment yet )

I think you're alright, too.  Maybe not the sharpest axe in the shed, but alright.  I may be even duller, myself.  For instance, I have no clue what you are tryng to say when you say: "when I look at a specific design and apply the laws of physics and see momentum is generated". 

What does that mean...momentum is generated?  That happens every time anything changes velocity relative to anything else in the universe.  To me, it says nothing at all about any specific situation or theory, since it is a totally and vastly unqualified and generally a semantically logically circular, meaningless statement.

But what else is new?  Illogic and mumbled jargon seems to be behind about 99% of the "research" being done on this forum and 100% on this particular thread!

Link me to this ??pesqualy?? thread you recommend...I'm ready!

Linda