Chas Campbell free power motor

[Aphasiac]

Sorry, Ash.

Just got a little excited. It's just... there's something about that paint that makes me think this one might even be simple enough for a guy like me to replicate. :P

Cheers!

--Mark.

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

sorry missed your Question Stefan,

yes he is still using the 800 watt drive motor.

[Dingus Mungus]

how can we prove a DC in and C out?
guys please advise, please be specific too 

No need to add components to the device at all...
I would simply go buy two identical kw meters to detect RMS in from grid, and RMS out to a string of 100w bulbs. Ultra simple install and as long as he can show at least twice as much energy out than in, it'll give him a great place to start the battle from. So for example lets say the kw meter coming from the grid is showing a steady 800watts of load the devices kw meter should show at least 1.5kw out. Now once you unplug from the grid you'll have your total consumed watts reading, and after the device stops you can then know its total output. The most important part of this technique is to record every last nanosecond of consumption from the grid. This means the kw meter must be running before the driving motor is even turned on, so we can account for its inital speed up time.

I hope you find this approach to be the most simplest and honnest solution, as charging batteries are a really inaccurate way to measure actual power. Batteries will only attract skeptical debate. I'm sure Chas would like to know REAL NUMBERS and not a rough guess. It'll make rubbing the numbers in someones face all the sweeter.

~Dingus Mungus

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Hi Dingus ,

Thanks ill mention it to Chas

one consideration tho, i think numbers don't impress as much as a LOAD. We need to be careful with light bulbs, as a caloric(sp?) meter is needed to determine HEAT and Freq per applied current, as if the bulbs a lit up, whats to say there are lit and drawing full wattage, perhaps if we measure the wires then i guess.

okay not bad...

[Dingus Mungus]

Hi Dingus ,

Thanks ill mention it to Chas

one consideration tho, i think numbers don't impress as much as a LOAD. We need to be careful with light bulbs, as a caloric(sp?) meter is needed to determine HEAT and Freq per applied current, as if the bulbs a lit up, whats to say there are lit and drawing full wattage, perhaps if we measure the wires then i guess.

okay not bad...

No need to meter the bulb heat or any of that...
It'll all get recorder in watts at the kw meter.
Heres a link so you'll be more familiar with it:
http://www.supermediastore.com/kilwateldet1.html

I'm sure theres a more exact model out there, but thats essentially it. As you can see it'll measure the exact kWh of consumption! It doesn't get any easier, fortunately for us Chas had predesigned his device to be 100% compatable. The 800w motor is AC right? I thought I had read that you were using an inverter to power it right?

~Dingus Mungus