Chas Campbell free power motor

[hansvonlieven]

Sorry zero.

This is not armchair maths, I actually made a model of the forces involved, the results are quite clear.

Hans von Lieven

[hartiberlin]

We have to define first,
how many balls are in the system !
In my RMud modified drawing there are 7,
but what happens, if there are 8 or 9 ?

[zero]

No Hans, you didnt.

You made a 2d representation.   If you watch the video... you can see that the
ball travels a very different pathway.

Once it enters the tube, it rolls from the back of the machine, to the front  -
at maybe a 30 degree angle.   This causes the ball to speed up very fast,
and once hits the waiting pocket - it crashes downwards into it..  giving it
more power to the downwards movement.

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hartiberlin - you can add as many balls needed to the system to make it
work.  They can store at the top and bottom of the device without any issues.

[hartiberlin]

Okay,
here we go,
now with 8 balls.

Let us keep all calculating it with 8 balls,
cause this is the starting position,
where you have the 2.16 to 1 torque start configuration
as I calculated earlier.

[Humbugger]

Humbugger,

Since you are such an expert..   Im waiting for you to express the
true 3d aspects.

You still do not account for the ball traveling at a 30 (?) degree slope
once its going down the PVC loader tube.

The speed the ball gains, gives it more power.

You entirely overestimate my expertise.  However, I do think you may be quite overcomplicating the solution.  Forgetting about all friction losses and assuming that the balls can roll under magical power on an absolutely flat ramp after being deposited on one end, we are presently attempting an intuitive proof based simply on the weight distribution at any given time on the wheel.  If it can't work under those super-idealized conditions, it can't work in worse conditions either.

A fair assumption for our present purpose is that the ball is pretty much reset to zero, kinetic energy-wise, when it makes the transition out of its "non-rolling but travelling on the wheel" mode and into its rolling down the linear ramp mode.  Each time it is forced to change direction in your 3D model, there will be a net energy decrease.


Humbugger