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Overunity Machines Forum



Chas Campbell free power motor

Started by TheOne, June 04, 2007, 10:25:17 PM

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hartiberlin

Hans lenk jetzt nicht ab !
Wir warten immer noch auf eine Rechnung von Dir ! ;)

Hans, don?t through the pill away, we are still waiting for a calculation from you ! ;)
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Humbugger

Stefan

I want to hear how Charles arranges a whole number of ball receptacles at 29 degrees each yet evenly around the wheel. 

I have been accused of inappropriate use of ridicule.  It is only fair that I be shown exactly why the idea of building the wheel with 29 degree increments is not ridiculous. 

Then I will voluntarily ban myself, cut off both my hands, pour the remainder of the Glen Livet into my eyes and light it on fire.  I promise.  And swallow the pill Hans is supposed to be keeping.

Humbugger

tinu

Quote from: hartiberlin on September 09, 2007, 07:15:26 PM
Quote from: tinu on September 09, 2007, 07:12:02 PM
Quote from: hartiberlin on September 09, 2007, 07:06:03 PM
Quote from: tinu on September 09, 2007, 07:03:48 PM
@ zero,

Only one comment: do the math, pls and post it.
Tx,
Tinu

P.S If this is about Campbell's device, I guess it's time to prepare us closing the subject, with a clear verdict that it is not working. PERIOD
Any objection?
For any other 'improvements' and variations, I suggest starting a new thread.

Tinu,
I made the math, look above !

Tinu  I still have the advantage:
3.87 to 3.73

What math?!!!
4 is not even a valid radius!

You people really don't read it, do you?
Everyone is just talking...

Tinu

Tinu,
you did not take a look at the drawing.
I always wanted to go out distance 4x not
just 3.8xxxx !


And I already explained, even before you ask it, loong ago, that by doing so (by going beyond 3.8...) you will deplete the balls.
You simply don't have enough balls to go to that distance. At that distance a ball stays for a small angle on the outer rim; in order to cover 2pi radians, you need more and more balls. Who's gonna lift them back?! You lift one ball at 30 degrees. That's all you lift!
You may be in 'advantage', on paper, but the machine will run untill all the bals are waiting in the line  on the down side.

Please read my post.
Tx,
Tinu

hansvonlieven

Tach Stefan,

Meine Rechnung hast Du doch schon, Grad 29 - 30, 3.6 auf einer Seite, nix auf der anderen und nicht genug Energie im System um das zu ueberwinden. Mehr braucht man nicht.

My calculation is there, degree 29 - 30, 3,6 on one side zip on the other and not enough energy in the system to carry it through. What more is there to say?

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

hartiberlin

Anyway, I think the gravity wheel from Chas can only be
made to work efficintly and overcome the total friction,
if he really uses something like a very big SMOT ramp in his system and gain
height this way...( as Gaby has pointed out)

So let us just wait and see, what Ash will report next from the
next visit on the 15th.

I think the Bob Kostoff design from this thread

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2326.0.html

is much more
interesting  !

Okay, for the next days I am done with the Chas gravity
device.
It is sure, that when you bring a weight down in the gravity field,
its potential energy is lost.
You can only regain it, if you stored it in springs
and this is also not the case in Chas?s wheel.
So the Bob Kostoff design is a much better gravity converter,
cause it stores the potential weight energies in springs
and release them again, when needed and
also uses the centrifugal forces to help
regauge the system and extract energy from them.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum