New positive proof of a working Newman fan motor charging a battery

[Dingus Mungus]

I've been thinking...

If the spark is indeed giving free electrons to the circuit perhaps a battery is
not the best proof of concept. Free electrons even in RF should still be able to
be stablized and stored in a 12v cap bank. I'm no electronics guru so I may be
wrong, but I'm going on the free electron theory.

We can just use our battery or PSU and a multimeter to charge the
"cap bank battery" to a replicatable quantified amount of input energy
and then short the coil on the cap bank, and give the shaft a lil spin.
Use the individual run times to adjust the contacts and what not.

Just a thought...
I would need others input to even know how to do that right.

~Dingus Mungus

[pg46]

Dingus Mungus-

Hmmm...maybe a good idea there to incorporate caps into the test system. I don't know about the BEMF producing electricity but for sure the spark does.
Some of you may remember from last year that a few of us were messing around with caps? Well in one part of the experiments we noticed that when transferring the energy from one charged cap and dumping it into an empty cap you often would end up with "extra voltage" which could only be on account of the spark that occurs when connecting the leads.
So this BEMF and the sparking in this system should produce extra energy above what is required to spin the motors.

[maxc]

Maxc,

Have you been running yours?  I have the opposite.  I large magnet and a lot less wire.  Is your working well?

I ran it for 4 hours the voltage went from 9.7 to 9.95 then started to drop slowly. The plates on the battery were probably being cleaned.  We all need more wire.

Could i put 2 spools in series on top and 2 more on the bottom. Run the taps to a small 100nf cap to ground?

I was thinking of making this circuit but put 2 brushes with spark gaps instead of diodes for befm back too battery. The second  circuit  from the bottom.
mark
http://www.icehouse.net/john1/tesla.html

[mrd10]

mrd10  - How is your project coming? manage to charge up any depleted batteries yet?

Hi pg47

My project has been on hold, Prelimiary tests show I can't charge battery up, but current draw is either in 1 ma range or is in microamp range, its very small thats for sure. I have a thing i want to try which i'll share with this group, it was given to me by a good friend, and who i've been helping with Otto's tpu project.

create static charge with your unit and time discharge back to battery, so in effect turn your newman motor into a vandagraaf generator. now that's some food for thought. I will do this at later stage, I'm finishing my bedini windows motor, which is related to rick's self runner:- http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Bedini_SG:Self-Runner

keep going guys your doing great

Dom

[pg46]

Dom-

Thanks for calling in.
Yup, so far my battery keeps going down while running my motor too. I am drawing very few amps too, like way under 40 milliamps depending how I set the comutator. I like the idea too of adding a static generator on the end of our motors. I thought of something similar myself seems we need so little to make this a self runner. Say, how about a Wimshurst Generator ?
When I incorporate it(my motor) into a tesla 4 battery set up then I have recorded an increase in voltage of 0.1 volt on each of 4 batteries after 1 hour. But will have to do more careful tests and measurements.
In the meanwhile I am going to put on a small generator(dc motor) on the end of the motor shaft and see what happens there.

All The Best,