Successful TPU-ECD replication !

[Earl]

Hi All,

If an USB controlled osc is OK, here is one:

http://www.ar.com.au/~softmark/

http://www.ar.com.au/~softmark/page37.html

he also sells on ebay.  I bought a USB-GPIB card from him and received it very quickly.

regards, Earl

[CTG Labs]

What the heck is scientific about being skeptical, and therefore deciding to do nothing? Do us a favor and prove us wrong!! And don't give me that burden of proof garbage. We've made our claims and provided our evidence. If you disagree with the evidence, your making claims, that need to be backed up by data!!

Build it, please, do us a favor, prove us wrong. That way, we don't have to waste any more time on this insanity. My wife would appreciate it.

Rich

Hi Rich,

Burden of proof?  If someone claims something surely they need to present proof rather than tell everyone else to go build it and prove it for them?  I see no scope shots, graphs, heat or light power measurements tests?  Perhaps I missed them in earlier posts as I missed your post earlier, I am at work and very busy!

Very well, as its a fairly quick project I will build this device.

But let me ask you all this, if I provide real test data and my interpretation is that it is not OU but coming from my power supply, is anyone going to believe me?  I can no more prove you wrong at this time than you can prove me right.

Like I said, where are the measurements?  Power on the mains side of the power supply, power from the power supply itself with scope across the power supply with one channel and a low resistance shunt inline with the other channel across that.  Same for the bulb, same on each mosfet.

Lux comparison too a known source/power chart.  Temperature tests, perhaps use a 1 ohm resistor as a load instead and meausure the temperature, then connect same resistor to variable DC supply and adjust until same temperature is reached and compare the DC voltage and current to find the power used to heat that resistor to the same.

Circuit which will trip from the power supply once a certain voltage and or current are reached and equivalent on TPU output, if the TPU output one goes first then there is more power in the TPU than coming from the supply, then reverse the units and try again to make sure they are equal in construction.

There are many testing methods and so far I have seen a couple of digital multimeters stuck on that cannot be trusted to sample properly above 1Khz.  I dont think there is any burden on me!

I know its early days and I am sure all the testers have the above in mind to try during their testing, there is much more I have not mentioned.  But you cannot measure with some multimeters and then go claiming OU.

So let me ask again, how sure are you really?

My results will follow.


Regards to all,

Dave.

[steve_whiss]

Hi guys,

...have to go with Dave on this - the chances of a "false positive" are high - simply because spiky electricity WILL spook instruments.


I feel the need here for a recognised way to measure input power / output power in a manner that does not use kit affected by spikes.

Why not generalise this and devise a standard OU.com power test?

Heat delivery (resisters / loads in oil or water) + temp rises is a good way - as long as no "cold electricity" is about (Sweet VTA would cause temp drops in loads).

But it is easy - load elements, known mass of water, thermometer. Start and stop temps + room temp changes.

Power in side? A digital power line VA meter?

It must be able to cope with != 1 power factor. This looks like territory for an expert.

This must have been tackled before! Anyone got a link to a site saying how previous guys have measured power in a reliable fashion?

Steve

[CTG Labs]

Hi Steve,

Indeed if cold electricity is on the scene, then we have even more trouble since being in negative form has all the opposite effects to normal disipative energy (this being convergant!)  Although I for one have never seen it, but would like to believe it exists, but were it to appear would not register on equipment?

Some may say the ONLY test here which can be 100% would be to have an isolated unit which self powers.  Nothing less will be accepted by the general scientific population!


D.

[giantkiller]

Well kiddos it is time for Mr. Safety again. You all know me by now. I like to harp on misunderstood issues. Why? Because they are existing patterns to be recognized by a larger group. This time it's us!

So lets talk now, shall we? Gather 'round.

To this day SM has crippled, pained hands, I heard Otto has a numb thumb, I got skin fairies, bone clicking, and a severe headache for 1 day and a half, I, Otto and Roberto got the crap scared out of us, Jason experienced skin fairies, C0mster experienced skin fairies.

Skin fairies? It is a warm gelatinous feeling moving over your skin as you cook. You are still only rare on the grill. It is caused by high RF. Left uncontrolled you will attain medium rare status. How do you like your steak? Oh, Dear what are you wearing for dinner? Nice tuxedo! Oh I'm sorry that is charred flesh! What a novel idea. A suite that is worn well done! Now you really can chew your own leg off. Mmmmm. You can also wear steak sauce as an after shave.

Skin fairies and pain? We who have attained these are respected here for our education, experience, and experiments. Yes, everybody brags in their own right about their qualifications. But how come all those quals don't help that person avoid fear, shock and damage? Whoa! Kemosabe. TPU man speak with third eye! These artifacts are the dartlets that Tesla mentioned. Maybe it is best that some of you just watch. Now put that TPU down! You don't know where it has been!

So for those who want to get overunity then experiment and cook. See the shock and awe. If you have not done this then you have no need or right to push, condem or whine.

A rocket fell out of the sky over my hometown on the day of my big test on Jan 03-2007. Oddly on the day of Jun 13-2007 with Jasons brilliant flash results the computers fail on the International space station. Both devices were Russian made. There are other things that have happened and I have devised that I am not at Liberty to talk about. What we have here is dangerous enough and we can't even handle that. HeHeHe.

If we weren't taking these small steps someone would be dead by now. Kapeesh?

I got my new scope in! Shweet!

--giantkiller. A closed mind is an inescapable trap.

(Sung to the tune of the Fish song by Country Joe Macdonald.)
And it's 1,2,3
What are we winding for?
Don't ask me I don't understand
The next stop is in Iran.
And it's 5,6,7
Open up the powergate.
Well ain't no use to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna fry!