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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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mrd10

Hi All,

Quick post here, tonight in the lab with Cam, this is what we found out:-

-just having the bobbins connected, we were able to light the bulb much better without the collector coil,
In other words we removed the mobius top ring and the bottom ring all together, and with 12v@ 1 freq the bulb lit  brighter, than it did with the mobious ring.
We didnt even have it in tpu format, we actually put a straight piece of ferrite rod through the 3 bobbins, this made a difference as it should, without the ferrite, the bulb was dim.

So results are:-

-3 bobbins only, connected as per Ottos drawing, and doesn't have to be in tpu fashion.
-mosfets are key to bringing amperage down compared to power transistors
-Used 1 freq, bulb lit at 50%, just over 1 amp current draw.
-with 2 freq we got 3 amp draw @ 12volts and the bulb was at almost full brightness.
we figured we were getting about 70% efficiency, best to watch the movie.

-then we upped the voltage to 24volts @ same current draw, I believe it was 2 amps, it brilliantly lit the bulb and then not long after blew the mosfets. Note in video were using 12 volts and not 24volts, 24 was tried before we did video.

Kind Rgds,

Dom

tosky

The removing test result by Rich is conflict with Otto. Their setup may have a little difference. Otto should also test it and give detail data.

Mannix

The distance between the coils is critical...

Slow down an bit here.
Otto used plastic nuts and bolts on his way there ...tried moving up and down a bit?
The tuning does change a bit?

Keep going.... 2 freq ....
Im just saving Otto the trouble here!

but of course the design will change. Not sure that you have the base line yet.



Lindsay




Bruce_TPU

@Mrd 10
Question:  What was the bulb wattage?

Can you draw a circuit the way you had it wired for us?
It could be a different frequency in each collector (as SM stated, see my post above) and then where they join together, POW.

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

Did Cam use a scope and see the "conversion" process through the bobbins from square wave to sine wave?  Did he see the "seed" that Otto and Roberto reference in their .pdf

Did the process look the same as it did with the collectors attached?

Did he try adding more than one bulb at a time?  And why has no one put an amp meter between the output and the light bulb.  If they have I haven't seen that posted.  Or volts output for that matter.. ???

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.