Successful TPU-ECD replication !

[z_p_e]

OK Bruce,

But that still doesn't answer the question. Two twists should not canel the flux, should it?

The Davis patent uses one twist, and this puts the current in oppostion. The title of the Davis patent is: "Non-inductive electrical Resistor".

That seems to spell out flux cancellation to me.

Darren

[z_p_e]

Lindsay wrote:

Darren ,many times i wanted to save you from the spinning magnets..but you were doing such a wonderful and thorough job..there was just a slight chance that ai was wrong ..I shut up!

Would you have apreciated me if I had said that I think that the cap is faulty?

Actually yes. I would have appreciated that Lindsay. If you followed all the thread, you would have noticed that eventually, this was one of my possible explanations for the effect. Perhaps you could have saved me some valuable time and effort.

But yes (I know what you're going to say) I did learn some things, and I enjoyed the journey, just as the guys on the ECD project are. They are learning too, but aren't that open to suggestions that perhaps their results and/or assumptions may be faulty. That's the bummer point IMO.

Learning by one's own mistakes does seem to stick much better than learning from others' advice I suppose.

Regards,
Darren

[Mannix]

Hi all,

On a more practical level..

I just spent a few hours wondering why my coils ver 2 would not sing..

I used fuel hose..I have lots of it.. i measured the resistance first...sure ...the one piece that i used had a high metal content...i did not check that actual piece....Idiot!..
Just in case others are using fuel hose...put a meter across the actual piece first..

Lindsay

[z_p_e]

Taking the simplification one step further, Otto's and Roberto's circuit without the two wire loops.

Is this representation what's really producing the output?

Interesting...

Darren

[Bruce_TPU]

@ Lindsay
Thanks for the tip, I nearly had a cardiac and ran for my coil.  Checked a scrap of my heater hose and all is well.  No metal, just rubber.   

@ZPE
You are correct in what you say of the double mobius, in theory.  It would not have been something I would have thought of.  Single mobius, yes and was working along those lines when Otto came through with this ECD.  It is a strange beast.  Similar but seemingly very different from SM's TPU.  It is either a hybrid or baby TPU.  I for one think that some of the following needs to be experimented with:

1.  I believe SM inverted DC to AC and had AC in the control coils at 7.23 Hz.
2.  I believe SM had three frequencies, one placed into each collector, the resonant, harmonic and intermodulation.
3.  I believe the primary was around all three collectors and the secondary around only one.  There were three of these, corresponding to all three collectors.
4.  I believe there was a special configuration of the collectors to disable the flux.  I have proof of this from the email on my thread from an investor who attended a demonstration, writing to another investor, he said that the TPU had an "ELLIPTICAL cross section".  In other words, not completely round.  A turn or twist on both sides of the toroid could account for that.
5.  SM's TPU put out DC with an AC signal.  It had to be inverted, far from the toroid to light up AC bulbs.
6.  The ECD turns DC to AC.  What would happen if we ran AC at 7.23 Hz through it and pumped in the same frequencies?

So anyway, I could go on, but these are some wonderful avenues to be experimented with, by me and others.  The answers will come.  Real science takes time.  It took years to learn to raise ocean shrimp in fresh water.  Now it seems so easy, as hindsight always does! LOL

Thank you for your time,
Bruce