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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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bob.rennips

#516
June 21, 2007, 02:48:31 AM
Quote from: kokomoj0 on June 21, 2007, 02:18:01 AM
Quote from: gn0stik on June 20, 2007, 11:31:16 PM
Quote from: kokomoj0 on June 20, 2007, 10:47:58 PM
Quote from: Mannix on June 20, 2007, 06:23:33 PM
Yes, Darren,

Wave watcher , Fantastic stuff, but Please do another thread! This one is for Otto and Roberto replication.

All else here, I urge you to do the replication.
You have the document??
What's stopping you?

It may not be a running generator yet but Please If have the skill its is time to do something..Common ground you know.

A walK to first base?

Before long most of  the discussions will only be relevent to those who have a little tornado...and some "seeds".

Threads  may become a bit disjointed as new people parachute in!

Great Days!!



Lindsay Mannix



please describe for us what exactly a tornado is and how one can produce it?

Is that something taken from maxwell's sets of equations?



Yes, the tornado is part of maxwell's equations.

Please Kokomo, if you have blatant disdain for what we are doing, why do you torture yourself here?



Awesome!    I guess i must have either overlooked it or we are using different text books?

Would you please be so kind as to give me the ISDN number or the title and publisher of your reference for that so I can go to the library and look it up?   Or URL i am not picky.....   I would very much appreciate it because I cannot find it in my stuff.  TIA

Then what about "kick" and "seed" and finally that long unanswered question of "how can harmonics be lined up"?

Who did the work on them, Lorentz? Faraday? Hertz? Tesla?   I have not been able to find reference to any of them either and maybe you can help me better understand what is going on here by either explaining exactly what those are or by providing me with the appropriate references so that i may do my own research and look them up for myself.   Again TIA.


No not disdain or torture at all.  i have no idea how asking for references and definitions would possibly be interpreted as disdain, do you use a different dictionary than the rest of the world?

I simply want to know what all that means before i consider winding a coil.

A kick (in the ass) is something my father did when we were naughty children.

A seed is something we planted in the garden and a plant would grown.

Harmonics is garbage as a result of the fundamental.

So you can imagine how totally confused i am when i hear all these terms thrown around that simply do not make any sense to me, so that is why i am asking.

Very simple questions i would think for researchers like yourselves. no?


Kokomojo,

I think you would agree that ALL the knowledge and understanding of the world of electricity and magnetism is by definition only a MODEL. It is NOT THE ACTUAL thing itself BY DEFINITION.

I agree that the model is very, very good, but it would be completely arrogant of anyone to say that the model and the actual thing are identical in every respect. THEY ARE NOT.

The start to improvements to the model occur when a researcher, experimentor, inventor, or layman observes something that they believe to be different from expected.

When this occurs in all endeavours, when trying to explain the anomaly there will be a mismatched between the available concepts and words, because they are based on the model, and not on what people are trying to explain.

BY DEFINITION, the words aren't available. Albeit on this forum there is a tendency to use words without considering their direct formal meaning to get across an idea of the direction of what they are seeing and in some cases physically feeling. Theories abound without so much a nary whiff of evidence. But this is all part of the mix. Ignore what is rubbish, and hold on to those things that appear strange.

So by saying "show me the references", you are showing that you haven't comprehended one the basic concepts of science, that knowledge is a model. So rather than, in your mind, taking the high road, you are in fact, trawling in the gutter, and displaying to the world your ignorance concering what knowledge really is.

This is not a university lab. This is a bunch of guys with varying backgrounds, languages and education trying to tweeze out the anomalies from the scant information concerning the Steve Mark's TPU.

If you cannot comprehend that such a diverse bunch of people will have trouble communicating their observations then what does that say about you ?

At the end of the day you either believe something is anomalous with the Steven Mark's TPU or you don't. If you don't then why are you here ?

If you do, then accept that what people write is the 'flavour' of what they are observing, it's not the complete recipe. Words WILL be used in the wrong context; gut feelings WILL be presented as FACTS; current scientific concepts WILL be mangled and twisted way beyond their formal meaning; but this is the nature of a FORUM.

If you cannot comprehend the bigger picture of what is happening on this forum and why that nature of the communication, is how it is, then this really is YOUR problem.

Bob.

PS. It is still frustrating as hell, but as time goes on, I'm getting better at ignoring what I don't comprehend, even if I think they are sometimes randomly linking scientific words together. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Take what you can, experiement, and put back what you can.

Bruce_TPU

#517
June 21, 2007, 02:49:36 AM
Posted by: kokomoj0
i simpy dont get it?


LOL 
That says it all! :)

Good night guys!

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

bob.rennips

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June 21, 2007, 02:53:22 AM
Quote from: kokomoj0 on June 21, 2007, 02:32:41 AM
Quote from: bob.rennips on June 21, 2007, 02:21:56 AM
Quote from: kokomoj0 on June 21, 2007, 02:07:39 AM
Quote from: btentzer on June 21, 2007, 01:53:59 AM
@ Bob R.

HELP...please verify!!!

I did an edit of somethings:

3.5 volts input
Square Wave
7.23 Hz         <------ I have said this frequency is in the TPU because of the clues!!
OUTPUT
30.36 KV

What do I say, I am speechless!

so you put 3.5 volts in at 7 htz and got 30,000 volts out?


What was the input current and the output current?

kokomojo, put brain in gear before operating mouth!
It's clear from the last few thread posts that we're talking about the simulator.

Get off the case with the input/output stuff. It's getting boring.

At this point we're examining anomalies.
We believe that identifying and then fully utilising these anomalies will result FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, in an overunity device.

I can categorically say that now the device is NOT OVERUNITY in its present form.





my apologies.  Just curious man...  My multisim indicates input and output.

Not sure why that is such a problem for everyone since that is how "over unity" is determined after all. 

Yeh and that is anoth4er thing that is confusing to me;  if it is not over unity how can anyone claim a "successful replication of the tpu ecd" as the title of this thread says?  i simpy dont get it?

You got a link, the text file and instructions. A 1 minute exercise. GO!

chrisC

#519
June 21, 2007, 03:43:12 AM
hey koko:

Why waste the Forum space? You know this bunch of folks will not be discussing SM's TPU if we really understood what caused these anomalies. Right? You know darn well this is not a OU device, so what continue to drag the input power vs output power argument, seed and tornados? At this stage. We're all trying to pull our brains and coil winding experiments just to try to reproduce and understand these 'unknown' anomalies. What is so wrong with our efforts?

Please, try to help if you are able to or simply find yourself another playground. Is that too much to ask?

Cheers
chrisC
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