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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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Antimon

Quote from: Grumpy on December 15, 2008, 01:18:57 PM
I'm pretty darn sure that SM charged caps - not inductors - but you are the expert...  :o

I believe that too, but not in the small ones :)

A.

BEP

Sorry Antimon.

I did write before understanding. I pursued BEMF as a source of extra power for to many years. I've even managed to create some very damaging and confusing effects from it. I finally decided the most pronounced effects are either destructive or illusion.

This BEMF term is flouted constantly in OU communities as some form of magic (for the ones that don't understand what it is). After about 30 or 40 cycles of 'new' ideas using BEMF my skin grew very thin. I'll refrain from responding to such claims in the future.

Used to produce high voltage? That idea is reasonable even with an 840.
No large caps in the small TPUs - agreed. Why? Because with the right coil design you can have massive amounts of capacitance in the coil alone. Yes, even with low turn counts.

Right now I design to totally eliminate BEMF without simply shorting it. In my mind when BEMF is there then the speed I want is not.

IceStorm

Quote from: BEP on December 15, 2008, 08:08:10 PM
Sorry Antimon.

I did write before understanding. I pursued BEMF as a source of extra power for to many years. I've even managed to create some very damaging and confusing effects from it. I finally decided the most pronounced effects are either destructive or illusion.

This BEMF term is flouted constantly in OU communities as some form of magic (for the ones that don't understand what it is). After about 30 or 40 cycles of 'new' ideas using BEMF my skin grew very thin. I'll refrain from responding to such claims in the future.

Used to produce high voltage? That idea is reasonable even with an 840.
No large caps in the small TPUs - agreed. Why? Because with the right coil design you can have massive amounts of capacitance in the coil alone. Yes, even with low turn counts.

Right now I design to totally eliminate BEMF without simply shorting it. In my mind when BEMF is there then the speed I want is not.


Hi BEP,

The funny thing about the BEMF/CEMF is in EFTV 6,  J. Bedini clearly state in this video between 3 minute 39 sec and 9 minute 10 sec that there no BEMF/CEMF in any of his monopole system. The nice question now, what charge the second battery ? :)  he clearly stated many time, the secret is in the switch. its what who put a shock in the vacuum/aether/whatever . Spheric's showed IMO the best arrangement to increase that effect but got misunderstood because what he talk about is a complex effect. Just to show you a example, when investigating the Spheric's devise, if you assume that the magnetic field from the pulsing coil go from the north to the sound in straight line (not really straight but its just a representation)  like the normal science told us, you will never get a idea of what really happend in your mind with the devise , but now imagine that the magnetic field go from the north to the south but this time not with a line but with a spiral, its a be hard to me to clearly state what i mean but look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3grPo81fBrA ,now all variable change. Now let introduce another variable for a proof of concept, assume that you have 3 coil, put "On" the first one, you get a magnetic field, now put "On" the second Coil who it's not far from the first one, both magnetic field couple to make a bigger one, until here there nothing strange, all normal science, the funny thing now is when you put "Off" the first coil, just for a moment there no change in the strength/size of the magnetic field, What will happen if you put "On" the third coil at this precise moment ?  ;)  . You need the right timing to make this to happen, so , you need to put "On" The Third one and in same time put "Off" the first to take advantage of the effect, so you need a little delay who can be made in different way. Now suppose we use  the same 3 coil but now we use that delay between each of them, the field at the end will be the Sum(with little loss due to impedance/circuit/etc) of the 3 Coil, Ca->Ca+Cb->Ca+Cb+Cc at the end with only one coil active at time. By a sharp switching the vacuum/aether/whatever gave us what we used to shock him but with a delay, Like water wave when you put your finger in it and put it out really fast, the center wave go down and up at different time.To make it more clear , assume we use X power, in ideal condition we get Y power Back. the max COP we can have here is Unity, Y<=X , Y is 180Deg out of phase. What the TPU do is it put that energy in phase, so a Sum can be made. For a unknow reason , what the aether/vacuum/whatever give back in energy have a decay, you can amplify it until you reach the Zero point, at this step , you have lost everything you gained. you cannot trick indefinaly the coils , its why you need to use 3 frequency, with the SM setup you get come limitation, you can only rotate 1 time before storing the energy you gained and repeat the process  because the 3 frequency are static, ex: 2hertz->200Hertz->2000Hertz . Don't forget the Decay time, its related directly to which frequency to use and why you cant rotate 2 time with static frequency.

Best Regards,
IceStorm

poynt99

Quote from: Freedomfuel on December 15, 2008, 03:08:05 PM
I have a suggestion for all you TPU builders out there.  Why don't you sprinkle several gallons of gasoline around your house and light a match?  If you want to kill yourself this would be a quicker and more conveniant way of doing so.

Feedomfuel my friend,

I have no doubt in my mind that Steven's devices are real, but I think your over exuberance to persuade the heard in another direction is highly unjustified.

.99
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators V2.0
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Towards Realizing the TPU V1.4: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=217
Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209

BEP

Quote from: poynt99 on December 15, 2008, 11:45:47 PM
Feedomfuel my friend,

I have no doubt in my mind that Steven's devices are real, but I think your over exuberance to persuade the heard in another direction is highly unjustified.

.99

@poynt99

No need to respond to such a useless comment. Most of us have already burned things down in far more inventive ways  ;D