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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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forest

wind it on torroid in opposite directions exactly the same amount of turns it should nullify then slight change of phase to generate spike but at 50Hz it is weak
the point is : why the lamp is pulsating ?
how about that ?

gyulasun



Quote from: forest on October 16, 2010, 02:33:03 AM
wind it on torroid in opposite directions exactly the same amount of turns it should nullify then slight change of phase to generate spike but at 50Hz it is weak
the point is : why the lamp is pulsating ?
how about that ?

Hi forest,

The toroidal transformer Mindfreer made in the video can be considered as a normal mains transformer, with double secondary coils, operated backwards. You can repeat his test by having such a mains transformer which has two identical and independent secondary coils (like 2 x 6V or 2 x 9V or 2 x 12V AC etc) and one primary coil for 120V or 230V AC, a normal off-the-shelf mains transformer for 50 or 60Hz could serve for the test.

And you connect such mains transformer secondaries like shown in MindFreer video in the schematic at 1:51  ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Efvq65RVTo )  and lamp B is connected to this mains transformer primary (titled as Secondary circuit in his schematic with the orange wires).

This transformer works as for instance a normal push-pull audio transformer does: during the positive half wave AC currents (coming now from the wall outlet) one of the secondary coils induces current in the primary coil for lamp B and during the negative half wave AC currents the other secondary coil does the same. If you connect these secondary coils with the wrong polarity, then their resultant flux cancel and no induction can take place in the core, lamp B remains dark. (You wrote they nullify, I agree.)

The lamp B is 'pulsating',  I can think of an explanation:

Lamp B is a CFL and when the gas flashes up in it the current taken for this flash brings his toroidal core into saturation, once in saturation, induced voltage reduces and the reduced AC for lamp B simply switches it off ---> current reduces, saturation is over, induced voltage comes back and this process repeats. (In fact the 10.7A his main load consumes (at lamp A) can bring his toroidal core towards a certain saturation already.)

MindFreer says in the video (at 4:37-4:42) he does not know why the primary current goes down to 10.1-10.2 Amper from the 10.7Amper and that it is a good thing.   Well, the fact is when he inserts the two secondary coils of his toroid trafo in series with his main load mains wires, he actually connects inductive reactances in series with his main load and a voltage divider is created for the AC input voltage, hence his main load can receive only a reduced AC input voltage and not the full one, ok? This is why his AC load current is reduced from 10.7A to 10.1A or so. If he had fed his main load from a Variac and adjusted it for the same 10.1A loaded current, then he could have measured the AC output voltage from the Variac: it would surely have shown anything between 110-120V AC instead of the 121.4 (as measured in video at 3:08 for the 121.4V).

So this is not free energy...and it is not correct to state it free,  you still take AC current from the mains wall outlet to operate your lamp B (if you solve toroid saturation problem to avoid 'pulsating') and while you indeed find your total AC current consumption is actually less when you use lamp B in the circuit, your lamp A (or the main load) will receive less AC voltage at the expense of lamp B.
And if you try to operate a normal incandescent lamp as lamp B and not a CFL and you care to use a hefty transformer that does not easily saturate, then your lamp A (or the main load at that place) will receive even less mains voltage, hence its original power consumption reduces further down (as the serially inserted (toroidal coil) impedances dictate from the lamp B circuit).
I agree with Loner, this is not an easily understandable setup and hopefully
these explanations above make it clear for anybody.

rgds,  Gyula

e2matrix

Quote from: gyulasun on October 15, 2010, 06:38:11 PM
Hi e2matrix,

Please see my post here as an answer to your question:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9854.msg260811#msg260811

Gyula
I am thankful for those like yourself here who understand this so much more than I do.  I think I might have tried his setup but thankfully I now believe it would not yield the results I'd like to have.  Thanks!

ltseung888

Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

wings

probably not related to this argument ... see the toroid in this video!

http://vimeo.com/13324978