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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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Super God

Is the zero degree coil connected to the zero phase output?  Why is the third oscillator connected to the zero phase?  Sorry, just a bit of misunderstanding.
>9000

Hoppy

z_p_e wrote: -

"However, I have been experimenting, building, and designing for a long time, and also seen "wolf" cried far more times than I care to remember. So perhaps you can appreciate my skeptecism and objectivity."


Me too.

It's important that Otto and Roberto carry out their own verification tests. They are now well aware of how this should be done and I'm sure they will report their findings in their own good time. Other replications are to be encouraged but Otto and Roberto can only sit back and rest when they have proved to themselves that their TPU and power supply can pass any scientific test conducted to verify the data and observations so far presented and recorded.

Regards
Clive

chrisC

@Tishatang

I tried to send you a personal message via the forum (twice). Are you still coming down to Santa Cruz with your scope?
Please let me know, asap (before you leave for China)!

Thanks

chrisC

jacob

Quote from: z_p_e on June 13, 2007, 08:55:01 AM
SM said that different configurations work, albeit, the final one was best. However, we can be certain that no matter what the configuration, the theory of operation, or basic concept is the same in all.

Not necessarily. Two different but linked processes could be involved in the ideal configuration, and some configurations could only expose one of these processes. What is interesting about Roberto's and Otto's breakthrough is that it gives us another perspective which, combined to what we already knew, will help us us gain a better understanding of the overall phenomena. 

Quote from: z_p_e on June 13, 2007, 08:55:01 AM
It would be interesting to read what the theory of operation or basic concept of your device is, as I have not seen this yet. Sorry if this has already been explained, but a formal writeup would be helpful to those building also, so they know what they are looking for.

Darren, before requesting more reading material, I suggest you read what is already available. Here is an excerpt from the TPU_ECD_V1_0.pdf document:

In this paper you will find few theoretical assessments: they, with the help of God,
will come later. This paper that you are going to read is to be considered just as preliminary, more data will follow as per requests also. A complete description of principles behind ECD may be found here (http://magnetism.fateback.com/Overunity.htm).


Quote from: z_p_e on June 13, 2007, 12:28:01 PM
I will not spend the time building this because I do not believe it works according to the claims being made. Insufficient and unrelible data is all that has been presented thus far and that won't convince me it is worthwhile to build it. I have other projects going, including the SM-TPU.

Then the appropriate question is: What are you doing here? This thread is for those who believe there is something important going on, and who want to be part of it. Others should either go for a walk or stay silent.

Quote from: z_p_e on June 13, 2007, 12:28:01 PM
Surely Otto and Roberto must have a theory of how the device operates, or at least what effect they were trying to achieve by their configuration? They must also know if and how a RMF is created, a turbine effect exists, what the kicks are and how they manifest etc. etc.

Surely, you know how long it takes to build a theorical frame around an unknown phenomena. This breakthough happened only a few days ago. Isn't your request somewhat unreasonable? Plus, why would you want to further your knowledge in a phenomena you don't believe in? Unless of course you have a hidden agenda...

Quote from: z_p_e on June 13, 2007, 12:28:01 PM
I am sure SM knows very well how to achieve the effect, and what it is, even though he may not be positive where the energy is coming from.

Since you followed what what going on in the Magnetic Reconnection thread, you must remember that in a letter to Mannix following the publication of my theory, SM plainly said that he had no idea what this effect was.

Jacob

gn0stik

Quote from: jacob on June 13, 2007, 02:52:11 PM
Quote from: z_p_e on June 13, 2007, 08:55:01 AM
SM said that different configurations work, albeit, the final one was best. However, we can be certain that no matter what the configuration, the theory of operation, or basic concept is the same in all.

Not necessarily. Two different but linked processes could be involved in the ideal configuration, and some configurations could only expose one of these processes. What is interesting about Roberto's and Otto's breakthrough is that it gives us another perspective which, combined to what we already knew, will help us us gain a better understanding of the overall phenomena. 

Quote from: z_p_e on June 13, 2007, 08:55:01 AM
It would be interesting to read what the theory of operation or basic concept of your device is, as I have not seen this yet. Sorry if this has already been explained, but a formal writeup would be helpful to those building also, so they know what they are looking for.

Darren, before requesting more reading material, I suggest you read what is already available. Here is an excerpt from the TPU_ECD_V1_0.pdf document:

In this paper you will find few theoretical assessments: they, with the help of God,
will come later. This paper that you are going to read is to be considered just as preliminary, more data will follow as per requests also. A complete description of principles behind ECD may be found here (http://magnetism.fateback.com/Overunity.htm).


Quote from: z_p_e on June 13, 2007, 12:28:01 PM
I will not spend the time building this because I do not believe it works according to the claims being made. Insufficient and unrelible data is all that has been presented thus far and that won't convince me it is worthwhile to build it. I have other projects going, including the SM-TPU.

Then the appropriate question is: What are you doing here? This thread is for those who believe there is something important going on, and who want to be part of it. Others should either go for a walk or stay silent.

Quote from: z_p_e on June 13, 2007, 12:28:01 PM
Surely Otto and Roberto must have a theory of how the device operates, or at least what effect they were trying to achieve by their configuration? They must also know if and how a RMF is created, a turbine effect exists, what the kicks are and how they manifest etc. etc.

Surely, you know how long it takes to build a theorical frame around an unknown phenomena. This breakthough happened only a few days ago. Isn't your request somewhat unreasonable? Plus, why would you want to further your knowledge in a phenomena you don't believe in? Unless of course you have a hidden agenda...

Quote from: z_p_e on June 13, 2007, 12:28:01 PM
I am sure SM knows very well how to achieve the effect, and what it is, even though he may not be positive where the energy is coming from.

Since you followed what what going on in the Magnetic Reconnection thread, you must remember that in a letter to Mannix following the publication of my theory, SM plainly said that he had no idea what this effect was.

Jacob