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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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turbo

#445
June 19, 2007, 04:10:41 PM
Quote from: z_p_e on June 19, 2007, 12:33:35 AM
I was going to wind a coil, but I don't have the #24 wire, so I decided to try and calculate the inductances.

What I came up with:

Primary: 15.5uH, 0.36 Ohms, [165.32 inches of #24 wire], 90 turns

Secondary: 107.8uH, 2.28 Ohms, [413.28 inches of #28 wire], 248 turns

I used a coil length of 1", and a starting bobbin diameter of 0.5".

Hopefully a few people will add their specs for comparison.

Regards,
Darren

248/90=2,75
2,75x12=33
33x3=99  ::)

MrMag

#446
June 19, 2007, 04:28:43 PM
GK,

CC - Control Coils - 1" width

Tubing for collector = 1/2"


Tim

giantkiller

#447
June 19, 2007, 04:31:13 PM
Quote from: MrMag on June 19, 2007, 04:28:43 PM
GK,

CC - Control Coils - 1" width

Tubing for collector = 1/2"


Tim

Geez! Thanks. I must have put my brain on backwards today.

--giantkiller.

MeggerMan

#448
June 19, 2007, 06:30:57 PM
@Roberto,
The divide by "n" device CD4059A you have mentioned is an excellent idea, BUT I think you need to still need to feed it with a function generator to get desired master frequency to start the divide by.
Feeding it with a xtal oscillator will limit the number of output frequencies.
I plan to do the same thing and this device is just what I have been looking for.

@Jason,
Although your function generator boxes do not support duty cycle control, you can however simply have an op-amp connected to the triangle wave output.
You adjust the -ve bias using a trimmer on the op-amp to determine at what point the op-amp turns on and off. Then using the amplitude control on the function generator you can set the duty cycle.
Simple.
I still have to test this with my DDS 20 function generator, except I have to use the sine wave output as the feed to the +ve bias of the op amp, not quite as good as using a triangle wave output, but it will do.

Not sure about the ripple counter idea, I think you would be better with what Roberto has suggested with 3 X CD4059A.

I think this is the way everyone should head towards, as this guarantees a synchronised signal in all 3 control coils.


@All
I have ordered up two more DDS 20's in kit form this time, so its going to be callenging soldering up the surface mount AD9835 chip with 0.5mm pin spacing.

I was thinking what WaveWatcher was saying about the clues in the post from SM, maybe it was SM himself???
I was trying to figure out the tie-up between 35.705KHz harmonic and 245KHz output.
So what combination will fit them together exactly?
Maybe 245KHz was a ballpark figure so as not to give the farm away?

If you have:
249.935KHz / 7 = 35.705KHz
249.935KHz / 5 = 49.987KHz
249.935KHz / 4 = 62.48375KHz

These would all be in perfect sync if you use 3 x divide by n devices all fed from a common function generator.

Also, there has been no mention of a tuning capacitor so the coils can be tuned to their harmonic frequencies.

Regards
Rob
 

Bruce_TPU

#449
June 19, 2007, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: MeggerMan on June 19, 2007, 06:30:57 PM
I was thinking what WaveWatcher was saying about the clues in the post from SM, maybe it was SM himself???
I was trying to figure out the tie-up between 35.705KHz harmonic and 245KHz output.
So what combination will fit them together exactly?
Maybe 245KHz was a ballpark figure so as not to give the farm away?

If you have:
249.935KHz / 7 = 35.705KHz
249.935KHz / 5 = 49.987KHz
249.935KHz / 4 = 62.48375KHz

These would all be in perfect sync if you use 3 x divide by n devices all fed from a common function generator.

Also, there has been no mention of a tuning capacitor so the coils can be tuned to their harmonic frequencies.

Regards
Rob
 

@ Rob
Now that is the kind of thinking that is going to move us to the next power level!!  :)
We will find one day soon, that those frequencies fit in some how.

Cheers,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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