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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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kokomoj0

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June 20, 2007, 01:21:37 PM
Quote from: bob.rennips on June 20, 2007, 07:30:05 AM
Although I've used sine waves for the calculations the same principle still applies because your coils are physically spaced at different degrees apart around a circle. Becauase you are dealing with pulses into the kilohertz and even mega hertz which create magnetic waves that mix, the exact position of your coils, to the nearest 0.5mm will be critical to the phase required between your pulses. My guess is that 1st, 2nd and 3rd harmonics will work when the coils are identical AND they are positioned precisely around a circle equal distances apart. If your coils are slightly different and not quite in the correct place, your sweet spot frequencies don't lie on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd harmonics, resulting in only partial conversions.

Hmm  i always thought the sweet spot frq was a system response?


Below is to Anyone?  Everyone?

I would really and truely like to know the following:

1) What exactly is a kick?

2) What Exactly is a seed?

3) Does anyone have the algorythm or whatever math is used for "majic" please?

Last the question I keep asking over and over and have yet to get any kind of reasonable answer on:

4) How do you combine the "harmonics"?

5) Exactly what do you expect to see when combining those harmonics?

Any info that can be validated regarding the following questions would be very helpful in my understanding of your project.

Finally since a successful tpu is one that runs OU then ottos must run OU correct?

I mean like remove any power sources since the title of this thread does say "successful"?

So many questions so few answers!

 

Bruce_TPU

#486
June 20, 2007, 02:54:35 PM
@ Everyone

I received a PM from WaveWatcher to post here for you! 
Cheers,
Bruce
This is his message:

I've been trying to answer some questions but my posts will not take.

Please relay as you find useful. ---

My device is essentially the mirror image of the TPU. It is self-running after excitation but fails on inductive loads and overheats. The LC circuit was an attempt to bandpass the feedback to self-excite and limit the runaway effect which causes heating due to frequencies exceeding the mechanical characteristics of the device.

The 'seed' as you call it I have referred to as the PE (primary event). My theory on that is...

The PE is the first appearance of focused particles that are already trapped by the Earth's magnetic field. These devices are allowing these particles to be collected and refocused (aligned?) and uses them as the foundation for the summation of frequecies.

We don't normally see this energy because we are at the same potential.

These particles are expelled from the Sun. For a brief instant they are formed as a Mobius field and then deform into chaos. Many of these particles are hel in magnetic field. We are simply polarising and focusing something that is already there.

I won't release detail on mine as it continues to evolve. The design is flawed as it is rectangular causing losses and heating effects. Ironically, it is starting to resemble the Earth in that it will be a sphere with two inner coils. This to avoid field attenuation and prevent spurious emissions. The unwanted emissions appear to promote runaway.

It would appear to be a MEG but Tom's MEG had serious flaws - no accounting for wave timing to prevent hysterisis. Rely on rise mainly instead of rise and fall. No consideration that it is easier to complete a magnetic circuit instead of choke a completed one.

My time is limited as I still must provide for my family.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Grumpy

#487
June 20, 2007, 03:15:22 PM
@WaveWatcher

Keep on keepin' on! 

Very nice take on the subject at hand.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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z_p_e

#488
June 20, 2007, 05:13:09 PM
Quote from: kokomoj0 on June 20, 2007, 01:21:37 PM
Hmm  i always thought the sweet spot frq was a system response?


Below is to Anyone?  Everyone?

I would really and truely like to know the following:

1) What exactly is a kick?

2) What Exactly is a seed?

3) Does anyone have the algorythm or whatever math is used for "majic" please?

Last the question I keep asking over and over and have yet to get any kind of reasonable answer on:

4) How do you combine the "harmonics"?

5) Exactly what do you expect to see when combining those harmonics?


kokomoj0,

1) No one knows for sure.

2) Ask Otto and Roberto, but I believe this is unknown at the moment. I do have a hypothesis however, and will elaborate in another post later.

3) Please clarify the question.

4) Combining the harmonics can be how Otto is doing it, but this question also levers on what a kick is and how it manifests.

5) If the ECD converts the aether, then an overunity effect would be expected. According to SM, the right combination of frequencies is what allows conversion to take place...they are the catalyst. If CEMF is expected, then the ouput power to input power ratio would be maximized.

Darren

EMdevices

#489
June 20, 2007, 05:15:49 PM
WaveWatcher,

Thank you for the info. It is great to hear you have a Self-Runner.

So your LC network was meant as a bandpass filter. I see, interesting.  It seems you belive any frequency can amplify in feedback, so you're trying to reduce it to lower frequencies perhaps (to keep heating under control)

Rapid heating in magnetic cores is not uncommon and is quite a limitation.  High frequency cores cost a pretty penny.

So one question I have is this:   Will your setup self-run without the feedback LC network?    You seem to imply it can, but I want to be sure.  It might be the key, since lots of people have tried feedback with transformers before.  I like your early direction to study "regeneration" which uses feedback.  Tesla was big on this.

I'll be watching WaveWatcher more closely     :D     LOL

EM
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