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Successful TPU-ECD replication !

Started by mrd10, June 12, 2007, 05:12:47 AM

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gn0stik

Otto, a while ago, on dave's forums you siad that you could confirm that there were inertial effects, that it lost weight, and that there was a rotating field.

Can you please explain this a bit further, and what we must do in order to see these effects?

Regards,
Rich

wattsup

@z_p_e

Yes you are very right. I should read up another 1000 hours. Fine. Then explain to me what the object is of having that secondary outside the primary. What are you trying to achieve is the question. Next question is, is it acheiving its purpose. If yes, why. and if no, why?

A basic step-up transformer is not banking on its core acting like a ring. Very different. The ECD and ALT1 are very different if you look at it from the rings' perspective.

My basic idea is that the outer portion of the secondary is being kept outside by the internal primary field, hence the outer secondary has no effect on the ring, because the ring is being cloaked by the primary being to close to the ring. What you are talking about is the current effect, what I am talking about is the field effect. Simple as that.

All I wanted to do is put forth an idea. Wrapping another primary over the CC as in the ECD+ is very easy to do and try so I will do it myself.

No sweat.

giantkiller

Quote from: wattsup on July 07, 2007, 01:43:22 PM
@z_p_e

Yes you are very right. I should read up another 1000 hours. Fine. Then explain to me what the object is of having that secondary outside the primary. What are you trying to achieve is the question. Next question is, is it acheiving its purpose. If yes, why. and if no, why?

A basic step-up transformer is not banking on its core acting like a ring. Very different. The ECD and ALT1 are very different if you look at it from the rings' perspective.

My basic idea is that the outer portion of the secondary is being kept outside by the internal primary field, hence the outer secondary has no effect on the ring, because the ring is being cloaked by the primary being to close to the ring. What you are talking about is the current effect, what I am talking about is the field effect. Simple as that.

All I wanted to do is put forth an idea. Wrapping another primary over the CC as in the ECD+ is very easy to do and try so I will do it myself.

No sweat.

Hi guys,
If you look at the ECD doc the primary is wrapped around the secondary. But both windings are tied together at the cw input side so this will not make a step up. You will have differences in the impedance and the slight phase shift increasing at the higher freqs. You will also see phase cancellation at the other end of the primaries. The secondaries will see phase cancellation at the load but in a longer time frame.
The first thought has to be the dynamic impedance across the segments and the unit as a whole. In others words, this thing is alive way beyond the standard thinking.
So the standard operation only takes play when the unit is first turned on. After that the 1,2,3 freqs should control our thinking. Clashing, bashing, clipping, hashing makes for an incredible noisy beast. When I flipped through freqs on the GK4 the scope was unreadable in normal terms but the 'woven indian blanket' patterns were very exciting. When I put the stun gun through it all bets were off because all I could see were the dartlets from the coil and the scope was useless. PHTvTvTvTvTvtVtVtVtVtVtVttttt(simulated stung gun sound effect), know what I mean? That was all I had to report. Talking about standard measurements was a joke. The running unit has to be on your bench.
I have thought there would have been other 'full experience, shock & awe' tests by now.

--giantkiller. Rompin, trompin, & stompin....

turbo

Quote from: giantkiller on July 07, 2007, 03:17:16 PM

But both windings are tied together at the cw input side so this will not make a step up.


Hi ,
in the early transformers the primary was actually a part of the secondary and vice versa...

How difficult is it to hook up a ammeter between the grid and the power supply?

we need some facts here people.

M.

turbo

Quote from: gn0stik on July 07, 2007, 01:38:42 PM
Otto, a while ago, on dave's forums you siad that you could confirm that there were inertial effects, that it lost weight, and that there was a rotating field.

Can you please explain this a bit further, and what we must do in order to see these effects?

Regards,
Rich

Rich, i have asked him the same question more then once, you know.
He just ignores it.

M.