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Solid state Bedini charger from John Peters

Started by hartiberlin, June 22, 2007, 06:23:58 PM

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sanmankl

From the picture, I see a number of transistors (mosfets?) but not timing / pulse generator. Could this picture incomplete or did John Peters got a sort of oscillator circuit running?

Yes, a more electronics schematic (not a concept schema) with parts list and value would be most helpful.

Regards, cp

Nabo00o

There isn't by any chance anyone here who have listened to Open Mind?
Because in one of the broadcasts were John Bedini was a guest, two viewers who had worked together called in and told them that they had made a solidstate version of bedini's devise. They explained alot of the theory, in adition to another phycisist/scientist who called in and explained about alot of wierd results he got from experiments he had conducted with the radiant energy.
I just wonder if you by any case is one of the those guys who made the devise work?
Static energy...
Dynamic energy...
Two forms of the same.

zpfe

>â€Ã...“In this solidstate circuit the radiant energy apears when charging the first capacitor bank, and after the big capacitor discharge to the batteryâ€Ã,

Where is your discharge circuitry none are in the picture or the diagram?
You have your battery schematic backwards. The secondary shape of your coil is not the one in your drawing.

> â€Ã...“with the right timing pulses.â€Ã,
What is the â€Ã...“right timingâ€Ã,?  One Hertz? Hundred Hertz? At what times do you trigger the discharge?

>â€Ã, That circuit consume milliampsâ€Ã,

How many mA? How did you measure it? An Amp meter, scope across a resistor? Be specific.

>â€Ã, the first blue capacitors are charged with only one wire from the transformer secondary and two diodes.â€Ã,

No they are charged by induction from the primary winding.

>â€Ã, No current from the secondary."
Again, how do you know? How did you measure it?

I agree with @Thedane you have a crude broadband transmitter. I hope you don’t live near a hospital to interfere with life support devices. And don’t be surprised if people triangulate your position and ring your door bell.
@Thedane, The reason they don’t think about these things, is because they don’t have a clue of what they are doing.

If people are not willing to share complete (scientific) experimental data, they should not post teasers. We have enough of those.

I made an almost exact device a few years ago (except the top diode between the end of the primary and + of the battery) to see what all the hoopla was about and didn’t find any extra energy. The best result I got was at 2400Hz@15% duty cycle 12v pulses into the primary of a microwave oven high voltage transformer. The batteries went up to 14 volts after 10 minutes but that was a surface charge that only took ~2 minutes to discharge to the original voltage of 12.4v

Tried frequencies from 1 Hz to 10kHz in 10 Hz increments and duty cycles from 1% to 50% in 1% increments with a PIC microcontroller I programmed for this purpose that did the freq/duty changes, charging and discharging, all under program control and logged the results in memory for me to download and study.
I also built an Adams motor and a Bedini SSG and thought they were interesting to watch, but no excess energy was found no matter what combinations I tried.
So I’m not some â€Ã...“arm-chairâ€Ã,, nay sayer, theorist. I put months of work and hundreds if not thousands of $ in to it. What a waste of time and money. But I did learn something for sure, â€Ã...“These devices don’t workâ€Ã,. Maybe I am another fool to stick around these forums. Maybe I am hoping I did something wrong that I can see from reading some ones post. So far, nada.

P.S. I shielded my experiments in a Faraday cage to deal with the RF. I don’t want that knock on my door and the hefty fine that comes with itâ€Ã,¦

So, builder beware.

Nabo00o

Quote from: zpfe on September 19, 2008, 07:52:00 AM
>“In this solidstate circuit the radiant energy apears when charging the first capacitor bank, and after the big capacitor discharge to the battery”

Where is your discharge circuitry none are in the picture or the diagram?
You have your battery schematic backwards. The secondary shape of your coil is not the one in your drawing.

> “with the right timing pulses.”
What is the “right timing”?  One Hertz? Hundred Hertz? At what times do you trigger the discharge?

>” That circuit consume milliamps”

How many mA? How did you measure it? An Amp meter, scope across a resistor? Be specific.

>” the first blue capacitors are charged with only one wire from the transformer secondary and two diodes.”

No they are charged by induction from the primary winding.

>” No current from the secondary."
Again, how do you know? How did you measure it?

I agree with @Thedane you have a crude broadband transmitter. I hope you don’t live near a hospital to interfere with life support devices. And don’t be surprised if people triangulate your position and ring your door bell.
@Thedane, The reason they don’t think about these things, is because they don’t have a clue of what they are doing.

If people are not willing to share complete (scientific) experimental data, they should not post teasers. We have enough of those.

I made an almost exact device a few years ago (except the top diode between the end of the primary and + of the battery) to see what all the hoopla was about and didn’t find any extra energy. The best result I got was at 2400Hz@15% duty cycle 12v pulses into the primary of a microwave oven high voltage transformer. The batteries went up to 14 volts after 10 minutes but that was a surface charge that only took ~2 minutes to discharge to the original voltage of 12.4v

Tried frequencies from 1 Hz to 10kHz in 10 Hz increments and duty cycles from 1% to 50% in 1% increments with a PIC microcontroller I programmed for this purpose that did the freq/duty changes, charging and discharging, all under program control and logged the results in memory for me to download and study.
I also built an Adams motor and a Bedini SSG and thought they were interesting to watch, but no excess energy was found no matter what combinations I tried.
So I’m not some “arm-chair”, nay sayer, theorist. I put months of work and hundreds if not thousands of $ in to it. What a waste of time and money. But I did learn something for sure, “These devices don’t work”. Maybe I am another fool to stick around these forums. Maybe I am hoping I did something wrong that I can see from reading some ones post. So far, nada.

P.S. I shielded my experiments in a Faraday cage to deal with the RF. I don’t want that knock on my door and the hefty fine that comes with it…

So, builder beware.

Its you who have a problem then, not everybody else. Do not spread distrust in this invention just because its to hard for you to figure out.
Static energy...
Dynamic energy...
Two forms of the same.

zpfe

@Nabooo,
The problem with people like you (and the rest of your cult members) is that you BELIEVE anyone who says something you like to hear and bash others who say things you don’t want to hear.
If you are such a believer you must have a working unit! Oh let me guess, you just THINK it should work but are too lazy to do the work. Why bother building it if it should work? It all sounds plausible doesn’t it? Why would men try for 20, 30 or 60 years if there was nothing there? Why wouldn’t they just give up?

I am beginning to think that all this Radiant energy is nothing but a scam to sell books and videos and recruit uneducated high school drop-outs and gullible inexperienced people as fans to do free experiments for the cult leaders. Sure sounds like a cult to me.
How is that for a conspiracy theory?

If any of these machines worked, why are Tom Bearden, John Bedini, Peter Lindemann, etc still alive? Would it not be logical for these evil powers of the world to take these people out? Wouldn’t the rest of the cult just crumble after that?

I have better things to do on my day off than to argue with a bunch of fanatics who are just running on faith, relying on their illogical arguments.
If anyone has educated logical arguments, count me in the discussion. Otherwise, you’re free to bash me all you want and quote more of your outrages â€Ã...“pot-headâ€Ã,, alcoholic theories and conspiracies. I won’t say another word and only reply to those who make logical arguments even if their observations are contrary to mine.